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Anya Hindmarch: The Interview

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Yesterday. designer Anya Hindmarch was in Manhattan to personally witness the chaos her “Not a Plastic” bags created.

And just in case you missed it:

There were 20,000 totes up for sale in New York’s Whole Foods stores, for $15 each. Within the hour, all of them were gone - despite a flood of rain so epic, it scared Fashionista into buying an ark on eBay.

Meanwhile, Ms. Hindmarch took her PR team and her umbrella (ella, ella…) and swept into the Bowery Hotel. That’s where we had a chance to ask her what some of you have asked us all along - is this all overhype?

And in Beijing, counterfeit “plastic” bags have already hit the streets… but that’s another story. Ours is posted below.

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Anya, say your name for us. It’s Hind-marsh, like a hind leg. It looks very German but it’s just an English last name! So say “hie-nd.”

And now explain how the Plastic Bag mission started… Well it started when I was introduced to an organization called We Are What We Do. It’s this great organization, very young, not worthy or preachy, and they put out a book called “How to Change the World for a Fiver.”

And one of the things they said was, decline plastic bags. And they said something that stuck with me, that when you throw something away, there is no way. And that’s when I started thinking we could do something. That was the bag.

You must have known it would be big. Sure, but with all of the lines and the mobs… the Whole Foods here was so crowded, and I suppose I didn’t expect the turnout. We’ve come straight from Tokyo, where the response was similar… it’s been an unbelievable experience. We’ve touched such a chord, and we have created awareness beyond our wildest dreams.

What about people who say it’s just another marketing gimmick or status bag? “Status bag”… well… The thing is, the bag is a vehicle for behavioral change. It’s like how people started wearing their baseball caps from back to front, it started virally.

Right now, it’s considered cool to have the bag, but even if people have them because they think they’re being trendy, they’re still being a billboard. I think it’s quite hard not to be affected by the message, even if it just walks past you several times. The bag is meant to create a tipping point, where you can’t not think about it.

And has it? Absolutely. I was out shopping the other day, and the two women beside me refused to take plastic bags for their purchases, and I swear, they were complete strangers and they had no idea who I was. I think the bag is really just a product to drive the action home.

But it’s also a cult fashion item. You could have sold it for a lot more… Didn’t your publicist, Isabel, get offered a hundred dollars for hers? Yes, and in England… it’s been weird. People I haven’t seen since I was four have been finding me, asking me for a bag! We’ve gotten all sorts of bribes, and phone calls, and I always want to be like, “Please don’t invite me to dinner, I know all you really want is the bag!”

It’s a big deal. We didn’t mean for it to be exclusive, we just didn’t expect them to go so fast. If anything, we could have made more.

We tried to make our own... But that’s great! That’s the point - there are a million ways to make it cool to not use a plastic bag. You can make your own tote, you an even re-use a plastic bag over and over, that’s fine, just don’t keep taking them.

So if another designer made a similar bag, would you care? That would be totally brilliant. There are a lot of causes that need help.

Do you think more women are realizing that they can help the environment just by bringing their own bag? Even supermarkets are realizing… at Whole Foods today, we saw people buy our bag and then buy a few other canvas bags from their store, and that was great… and if one supermarket can stop giving out plastic bags altogether, eventually they’ll all stop.

What’s next for you? Honestly? I need a holiday. But then it’s back to business as usual. We have 20 new stores opening up in Russia, America, England… and there’s new collections coming, too. This bag has been fantastic, but now it’s time to get back to the rest of our bags… maybe in the future we’ll release another product like this, but definitely not this year!

Anya’s publicist looks down at her Blackberry, then looks up. “I’ve just got another email from an editor,” she says. “Hi, do you have any of those bags left?”

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posted by guest

Jul 19, 2007 10:13AM

She seems sweet and well intentioned

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posted by guest

Jul 19, 2007 10:25AM

One thing is for sure, the idea of this bag maybe rubbish, but it's the first really fashion democratic bag, the cleaning lady of my building has one.

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posted by Faran

Jul 19, 2007 10:32AM

1. Have you skipped the entire interview and rushed straight to the comments section? I think you're missing the point of the bag, which is actually to curb rubbish.

2. Surely you can think of many other items in fashion history that blanketed many demographics. What about (gasp) blue jeans or Chuck Taylors?

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posted by anon v.2.0

Jul 19, 2007 11:05AM

Faran, did you not read this yesterday ? Becoming very unattractive

"Everytime I'd say something remotely critical Faran comes right back with extremely defensive responses...It's fantastic that she has the attention of fashion insiders-she should respect our opinions even if we don't necessarily agree with her."

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posted by Lisa

Jul 19, 2007 11:06AM

I am always surprised to hear the people-wait-in-line news caused by this bag. In Asia, people wanting to get inside a department store which sold this bag even got hurt. Why doesn't AH make this bag a recurring one?

PS. I don't own and don't care to own one.

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posted by Faran

Jul 19, 2007 11:16AM

Lisa, I think they've simply run out of materials! They'd need to put in a whole other order just to make the bag again.

Anon 2.0, the interesting thing is, the comment didn't criticize our interview, it just criticized the bag.

Similarly, my response was a defense of the bag and not the site - though if someone's going to be finite enough to say "the first fashion democratic" anything, we're going to challenge it because that's a pretty absolute statement.

We realize people aren't used to having their opinions questioned or challenged, but a large part of this site is a discussion, and that seems to go in all ways.

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posted by kenbot

Jul 19, 2007 11:32AM

Faran, perhaps you don't realize how snarky and defensive some of your responses seem to the average reader of this blog.

"Have you skipped the entire interview and rushed straight to the comments section?" and "What about (gasp) blue jeans.." chastise the commenter and, in my opinion, make others less likely to join the discussion. There are plenty of ways to convey the idea that there is democracy in fashion beyond the Anya Hindmarch bag without resorting to belittling your commenters.

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posted by Faran

Jul 19, 2007 11:42AM

But they belittle me all the time... :)

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posted by MK

Jul 19, 2007 11:56AM

I have my bag and I love it. I think that people who say they hate the bag or have no interest in owning one are just jealous they can't get their hands on it. If anything like Anya said this bag is bringing awareness that plastic bags shouldn't be used and that people should use other means to put their shopping purchases in. More power to her for bringing the awareness out and more power to the people who have been doing their part to conserve the Earth. So for you all haters just go away.

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posted by rachel

Jul 19, 2007 12:11PM

mk you must be nuts. while the concept is fantastic, getting her bag shows you to be more of a follower than anything. like someone else said, a "herd mentality."

i think everyone should own a canvas bag, but owning this one after all of the fanfair and attention it shows how eager people are to fit in........

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posted by d.

Jul 19, 2007 12:14PM

Faran, there's no need to be so defensive, , the interview was about the BAG, I answerd that the idea behind the bag is "rubbish" even more so according to this interview, in London they were giving the bag to customers in PLASTIC bags, I guess that says it all.

What is so wrong with me saying as the only positive thing that the bag is democratic, I thought something being democratic was a good thing.
Anyway since you want to be literal, I was talking about IT bags by designers at that price, I wonder what blue jeans have to do with it.

Faran that was really childish, I will refrain from posting in here from now on, since you didn't have any arguments you made me sound like I was off topic, that from a moderator it's not very ethic.

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posted by erin

Jul 19, 2007 12:15PM

I agree with MK...the point of the bag is for it to be seen - to see the message right in front you and make it a peer pressure thing -- which fashion very much is -- not to accept a plastic bag. i dont think it's Hindmarch's job to make sure everyone in the world has a bag just because it was a success; it's the idea that's important, and she affirmed that by saying she hopes other designers use the idea.

On a different note, I thought perhaps anon reader #1 meant this is the first designer item they personally have seen cover all socioeconomic ranges right at it's release. Maybe that's why Faran's comment seemed snarky. I know I didn't think anon meant "ever in the history of fashion," period.

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posted by a

Jul 19, 2007 12:49PM

I would have bought the bag if it was readily available to use for groceries and the beach. I initially liked the idea--something functional, a bit stylish, available in Sainsburys to all who wanted an alternative to the other bags out there. Yes, it cost a little more but it added an incentive to use fewer bags.

Like many who've critiqued it, I came to dislike it when it became evident that this was not the case--it was another in a long line of cheap designer items that were purposefully limited so they created an excessive shortage and used this a PR stunt to market a brand.

Whether or not the materials exist or not, the shortage is the point, exacerbated by giving out all those bags to celebrities (and for collectors, making three versions for different continents so some feel the need to have all three--hardly a sentiment in keeping with environmentalism).

Many buyers bought these to resell and didn't care about the environment and are not using them to pack groceries. If you read any of the posts on gothamist, many sellers immediately resold on ebay for $100+ profit. I doubt many are going to be used instead of plastic or paper to pack groceries.

I'm not jealous, I don't think it's AH's job to be an environmentalist (and I don't think she's serving the cause but exploiting it for name recognition or she'd have upped supply to meet demand and thus make the bag match its ostensible function). I certainly don't think it is that democratic--the tight supply and the secondary market mitigated against that along with the celebrity gifting before the official release.

If it were truly widely available and thus not a cult object, I'd get one to use it for what was supposed to be its real purpose--to shop with, not to be a status symbol (albeit a tainted one by now).

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posted by leave no trace

Jul 19, 2007 12:50PM

If the amount of time devoted to this stupid Hindmarch discussion were instead spent, I don't know, volunteering with the Surfrider Foundation, Sierra Club or any other organization that sponsors clean-ups (which usually includes picking up stray plastic bags)...then our beaches, parks, waterways and common areas would be that much better for it.

Seriously, how much collective energy has been put into The Great 2007 ' I Am Not A Plastic Bag' Debate?

And think, you'd still have that $15 in your pocket, enough for a cheap-o tote and happy-hour round to celebrate how volunteering rocks.

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posted by Corey

Jul 19, 2007 1:16PM

I liked the interview, she seems cool, and as perplexed but naturally happy about the phenomenon of the bag as a lot of us are interested/repulsed/bored/whatever.

All I would add is that this is happening in the context of the era of the $1,000 handbag. I think that is what has driven the craze, in part. I don't knock the high prices of some designer bags that are apparently crafted by artisans with superlative materials. I bet some of the early buyers of the bag (like myself, who pre-ordered back in April) were happy to have the chance to own a bag with the cachet of a designer who's regular items are way out of reach, financially. Marc Jacobs is another example, since he offers a lot of affordable merchadise (sometimes with a social-politcal cause tie-in) in his NYC boutiques alongisde the $$$ stuff....

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posted by rachel

Jul 19, 2007 1:16PM

leave no trace, this is a fashion forum. this is meant for discussion. i volunteer but that was snarky to go there.....

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posted by AP

Jul 19, 2007 1:26PM

I've been a long time reader of this blog - often checking multiple times a day! This is my first time posting only because I felt like Faran's response above left a bitter taste in my mouth (that wasn't from my black coffee).

I by no means consider myself a fashionista, but I love this blog for letting me at least have a taste of that world and lifestyle. Faran - the blog is fun and I love the discussion. I know some comments do seem to attack the posters for whatever cruel purpose, but please don't follow down the same road.

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posted by anon

Jul 19, 2007 2:04PM

curious for those of you who have this bag - when you bought it, did they put it into a shopping bag for you or did you just walk out with it over your arm??

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posted by leave no trace

Jul 19, 2007 2:43PM

rachel:
I wasn't aware that part of the fashion discussion involved flogging the proverbial dead horse.

I enjoyed the above interview and the other discussions where people posted their (often more creative) bag ideas, but am otherwise over "INAPB" in general. Guess I have a short fashion attention span.

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posted by Sarah

Jul 19, 2007 3:08PM

Love her and love my bag!

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posted by Chels

Jul 19, 2007 3:33PM

Leave No Trace, isn't it good that this bag sparked a discussion? That no matter how we feel about it (I think it's cute, but I fear the backlash), it got us all talking about the impact we make on the environment every day? Yes, some of that energy could be spent volunteering, but how many people (myself included), would never have considered the number of plastic bags I take on a daily basis and maybe done something about it?

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posted by Helen

Jul 21, 2007 7:21PM

in response to one person's question, when i bought my bag at the whole foods on bowery i was not given a plastic shopping bag. however there was an option to purchase a canvas bag for $1. i think the bags are adorable and a step in the right direction for environmental awareness. what bothers me about them is all the people who bought three with the hopes of selling them at an inflated price on ebay. this completely defeats the purpose of the bag!

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posted by Allison

Jul 21, 2007 8:31PM

what i dont get is how are you gonna fit ALL of your grocies in that bag? What about the people that shop for more than just a couple things at a time? Are they suppose to buy a bunch of them to get your grocies home? They are adorable though.

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posted by Faran

Jul 21, 2007 10:03PM

Hey Allison, I fit all of my groceries in the bag today, so that was...

1 gallon of Arizona Ginseng Plum Iced Tea
1 bag frozen shrimp
2 bags ziti
1 box organic faux pop tarts
1 bag blue corn tortilla chips
1 container mozzerella
1 box frozen veggie quesadillas
1 pint vanilla yogurt
6 cans cherry coke (even though they call it "coke cherry" now, which feels inauthentic)
2 red peppers

I couldn't believe it. And yes, you know now far too much about me.

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