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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://fashionista.com/2007/08/models-are-not-as-expensive-as-hollywould/comment-page-1/#comment-13075</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want even more specific info, AM, email me at yellowcupcake@gmail.com :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want even more specific info, AM, email me at <a href="mailto:yellowcupcake@gmail.com">yellowcupcake@gmail.com</a> :)</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://fashionista.com/2007/08/models-are-not-as-expensive-as-hollywould/comment-page-1/#comment-13074</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annmarie, I&#039;ll give you a hint - several locations in the Caribbean are more than welcoming, including a particular US commonwealth that has some gorgeous remote beaches.  Reach out to the tourism board directors first before reaching out to the publicists - have your circulation numbers, impressions, and demographic info handy.  If you can get the directors really excited, which isn&#039;t hard if you&#039;re a known outlet (read: anything that&#039;s notable, and not some teeny newspaper in upstate PA or something), they&#039;ll encourage the publicists, who will, in turn, set it up.
Oh, also have handy: the number of people who will be on location, the number of hotel rooms and airline tickets you need, and have an idea of what locations you want (super easy to Google, or just visit the island&#039;s website).  The more you know about your shoot and the location, the better.
Hope this helps :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annmarie, I&#8217;ll give you a hint &#8211; several locations in the Caribbean are more than welcoming, including a particular US commonwealth that has some gorgeous remote beaches.  Reach out to the tourism board directors first before reaching out to the publicists &#8211; have your circulation numbers, impressions, and demographic info handy.  If you can get the directors really excited, which isn&#8217;t hard if you&#8217;re a known outlet (read: anything that&#8217;s notable, and not some teeny newspaper in upstate PA or something), they&#8217;ll encourage the publicists, who will, in turn, set it up.<br />
Oh, also have handy: the number of people who will be on location, the number of hotel rooms and airline tickets you need, and have an idea of what locations you want (super easy to Google, or just visit the island&#8217;s website).  The more you know about your shoot and the location, the better.<br />
Hope this helps :)</p>
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		<title>By: Annmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, Sunshine? Im a location manager for movies and I occasionally do photo shoots and...I havent really found that, especially not in the past year or so, when people have been looking at my crew way more as a disuption and annoyance than a chance to shine. Lately I&#039;m axe-ing possibilities left and right because the costs are so much higher than they used to be, and its hard to find people that want to work like this...You need to hook me up with who you were working with!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, Sunshine? Im a location manager for movies and I occasionally do photo shoots and&#8230;I havent really found that, especially not in the past year or so, when people have been looking at my crew way more as a disuption and annoyance than a chance to shine. Lately I&#8217;m axe-ing possibilities left and right because the costs are so much higher than they used to be, and its hard to find people that want to work like this&#8230;You need to hook me up with who you were working with!</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed -- models usually cash in when they land big campaigns and (surprisingly) catalogues.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed &#8212; models usually cash in when they land big campaigns and (surprisingly) catalogues.</p>
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		<title>By: cw</title>
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		<dc:creator>cw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...as a fashion stylist i can honestly say that big bucks are spent on photoshoots and it usually goes to location, food, hair/makeup, and photographer+assistants.  everyone else takes a cut because we want to work on such fun projects.  but our bread and butter work is definitely NOT editorial, and neither is the models.  it would be nice to get paid my usual day rate and not a cut rate.  it&#039;s nice that more and more magazines are finally giving stylists a name credit, but if getting paid means using some real women...i say, YES!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;as a fashion stylist i can honestly say that big bucks are spent on photoshoots and it usually goes to location, food, hair/makeup, and photographer+assistants.  everyone else takes a cut because we want to work on such fun projects.  but our bread and butter work is definitely NOT editorial, and neither is the models.  it would be nice to get paid my usual day rate and not a cut rate.  it&#8217;s nice that more and more magazines are finally giving stylists a name credit, but if getting paid means using some real women&#8230;i say, YES!</p>
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		<title>By: leia</title>
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		<dc:creator>leia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I meant to also say that some of the best fashion advice I&#039;ve heard is from articles in Vogue about real women, like beware of prints at cheap retailers like H&amp;M or XXI (Amanda Brooks) and to only wear eyeliner on top during the day, and on top and bottom only at night (some insanely chic french woman Plum Sykes interviewed like 6 yrs ago)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I meant to also say that some of the best fashion advice I&#8217;ve heard is from articles in Vogue about real women, like beware of prints at cheap retailers like H&amp;M or XXI (Amanda Brooks) and to only wear eyeliner on top during the day, and on top and bottom only at night (some insanely chic french woman Plum Sykes interviewed like 6 yrs ago)</p>
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		<title>By: leia</title>
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		<dc:creator>leia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been getting so tired of almost every spread in Elle being some tan model in Cavalli on some tropical locale loaded up with expensive jewelry. EVERY month!
But I do love seeing both models and real-life women.......a variety is nice.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been getting so tired of almost every spread in Elle being some tan model in Cavalli on some tropical locale loaded up with expensive jewelry. EVERY month!<br />
But I do love seeing both models and real-life women&#8230;&#8230;.a variety is nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I normally love when they use models, solely for the fact that I love their beautiful faces (and it&#039;s always fun to ID them), but lately I have been disenchanted with the use of them, particularly Vogue&#039;s Steven Meisel white studio editorials with jumping Caroline Trentini. BORING. Yes, the point is to show off the clothes, but at the same time, give them life and show how they can be used in the world (even if a trip in Bali with Natalia on a white horse is a slightly fantasized version of day-to-day life). If all I&#039;m getting is Caroline Trentini in a white studio, I rather just look at the runway shots, thank you.
Another thing, and I know this is contradictory, but it still needs to be asked -- aren&#039;t models supposed to showcase the clothes? Have the clothes be the star (for the most part)? So if Vogue and other mags are trying to make celebrities out of the &quot;top models,&quot; wouldn&#039;t that make us focus more on the models than the clothes?
What I appreciate about the regular-person features is that they usually provide interesting back stories and I always love to see how people incorporate thousand-dollar items into their personal style. Unlike model editorials, these features aren&#039;t blatant advertisements to me, but more like inspirational guides on how to put together my own style.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I normally love when they use models, solely for the fact that I love their beautiful faces (and it&#8217;s always fun to ID them), but lately I have been disenchanted with the use of them, particularly Vogue&#8217;s Steven Meisel white studio editorials with jumping Caroline Trentini. BORING. Yes, the point is to show off the clothes, but at the same time, give them life and show how they can be used in the world (even if a trip in Bali with Natalia on a white horse is a slightly fantasized version of day-to-day life). If all I&#8217;m getting is Caroline Trentini in a white studio, I rather just look at the runway shots, thank you.<br />
Another thing, and I know this is contradictory, but it still needs to be asked &#8212; aren&#8217;t models supposed to showcase the clothes? Have the clothes be the star (for the most part)? So if Vogue and other mags are trying to make celebrities out of the &#8220;top models,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t that make us focus more on the models than the clothes?<br />
What I appreciate about the regular-person features is that they usually provide interesting back stories and I always love to see how people incorporate thousand-dollar items into their personal style. Unlike model editorials, these features aren&#8217;t blatant advertisements to me, but more like inspirational guides on how to put together my own style.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://fashionista.com/2007/08/models-are-not-as-expensive-as-hollywould/comment-page-1/#comment-13067</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite a few tourism boards will cover the travel/hotel/location expenses of the entire crew - if not fully, then they&#039;ll at least provide a GENEROUS discount.  Ends up not really costing the mag anything as their &quot;budgets are soooo small.&quot;
(this coming from a recent former tourism publicist)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a few tourism boards will cover the travel/hotel/location expenses of the entire crew &#8211; if not fully, then they&#8217;ll at least provide a GENEROUS discount.  Ends up not really costing the mag anything as their &#8220;budgets are soooo small.&#8221;<br />
(this coming from a recent former tourism publicist)</p>
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