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ma f07.jpg Today, The Daily Mail vocalized what’s been on a lot of our minds - what’s up with the current “ugly trend”?

Well, we never really thought of it as the ugly trend before, but we have to agree with writer Liz Jones - a lot of the options this season don’t exactly promise to flatter.

She singles out the wide trouser, tight high-waisted pants, patent leather corset belts, and super-short tulip dresses paired with chunky platforms - items all but guaranteed to highlight your physical imperfections.

As she puts it:

“The ugly look certainly seems to scare off men. As an experiment, I wore the bright blue furry fronted skirt from Prada with my huge Marni platforms, over-the-knee socks from Topshop (I kept having to pull them up), and a really horrible shrunken green squiggles Vivienne Westwood T-shirt from the late Seventies, for dinner with a quite sane man (i.e. not one who works in fashion).

I asked what he thought.

“The socks are hideous. Why do all women nowadays wear woollen tights, and black leggings? Why do you want to cover up your figure (Ugh, I can’t possibly go out with a man who says the word ‘figure’)?

“Men like women to look feminine and solvent, with strappy shoes that show their toe cleavage. We don’t want to date a bag lady.”

Indeed. Well, at least my outfit separated the wheat from the chaff, revealing my potential boyfriend to be both humourless and a bit of a pervert, actually. “

He sounds like a jerk, and anyone who has “toe cleavage” as a requirement is, um, ew. But we still get the point - do “quirky-chic” clothes make you feel pretty?

—ALISON COOL

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posted by Megan

Oct 23, 2007 10:24AM

YES.
its better than being safe and boring.
plus im only 20 so I can.

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posted by Emily

Oct 23, 2007 10:35AM

Certain clothes in this group are definetly just ugly...things my mother would buy at chicos...but the best stuff (esp. from marni) is sexy and confident without neccesarily being girly or resorting to the "toe cleavage" level of overt panderingly deliberate sex appeal

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posted by gen

Oct 23, 2007 10:43AM

it's all a case of knowing what suits you, and what environment you're going to introduce these clothes to. like she says, if you're tall & slim enough to get away with it, wide trousers are great if well-made. and some of these supposedly mad clothes make great clubbing options.

the balenciaga tulip/shoulder-pod/whatever-you-wanna-call-it dress is revolting though, and i'm really not a fan of the high-socks-over-tights look.

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posted by gen

Oct 23, 2007 10:47AM

also - i suspect some of the same men that cry out for toe cleavage would scoff at women whose clothes are incompatible with the weather. winter's coming, fellas. we're not all prepared to freeze our extremities off for the sake of sex appeal.

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posted by Brittany

Oct 23, 2007 10:49AM

Well, I've always dressed for myself so whatever works works.

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posted by Samantha

Oct 23, 2007 10:56AM

i think trying too hard is a definite turn-off, and men can sense when a woman is trying to be the most fashionable. i believe its all about how you carry yourself and how confident you are in your clothes. besides, if you feel pretty you don't need a man to give you affirmation.

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posted by Laia

Oct 23, 2007 11:15AM

there's a difference between dressing for men and dressing for yourself. i think in general, being a little fashion forward usually means getting mixed results from guys, but dressing for them would just mean getting a boob job and wearing too low pants that expose butt crack and cleavage. it's the difference between being paris hilton and being carine roitfeld.

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posted by erin

Oct 23, 2007 11:30AM

You must post a picture of the outfit! "Toe cleavage" is going to make me laugh all day.

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posted by Sara The Bargain Queen

Oct 23, 2007 11:43AM

I think the author's missed the point a little. (I mean Liz Jones, not you Alison! ;)

One quirky item in an otherwise normal outfit is fabulous. Top-to-toe quirky is far harder to pull off... and if you don't have Vivienne Westwood's chutzpah, I'm not sure you should even try!

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being just a little quirky and eccentric, we don't all need to be completely mad.

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posted by fashionursta

Oct 23, 2007 12:08PM

My husband thinks i'm sexy BECAUSE i dress in quirky and unexpected ways. but he's kind of unconventional himself. but he does get mad at me for spending, but that's another story. I feel pretty and powerful when i dress who i am. I always like to dress a little out of context, and that usually includes something that is not conventionally "pretty". It becomes pretty on the wearer, if it is truly who she is.
Toe cleavage? eeewww!!!!

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posted by leia

Oct 23, 2007 12:47PM

If we dressed to impress men, we'd all look like the Hooters' waitresses! ;-)

Dress should reflect one's personality, and overt sexiness would never work for me. I'll stick to slightly quirky.

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posted by Dagny

Oct 23, 2007 2:43PM

Her outfit sound atrocious and terribly unflattering. I think that she took it way too far though, and wore stuff that most people would call ugly, not quirky. There's a big difference between wearing a tribal print top with a pair of jeans and some cute flats, and wearing a furry skirt with socks over tights. Runway looks rarely seem to work when worn by regular people unless they're leavened by pieces that are more normal looking, and sometimes they don't work on anyone but a model, which is why women should really think more about their bodies and what they like than about trends.

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posted by Pink Tartan

Oct 23, 2007 2:44PM

I generally dress for myself. If it's an outfit I fell great in, then ,I think, I look great. If my guy likes it, that's nice but not what I think about when I'm putting something together.
As for the 'ugly' trend, isn't it really up to the eye of the beholder to determine? There are times in New York Mag's lookbook, Vogue or even Streetwalker where someone has pulled together some crazy look. But it works for them because they have the attitude and the style to pull it off.
On the other hand, the outfit shown in the article gave me a little migraine!

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posted by Pink Tartan

Oct 23, 2007 2:54PM

Oops! That's 'feel great in' not fell great in (unless I've had too much to drink-whole other ball game.... ;)

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posted by Raina

Oct 23, 2007 4:44PM

It's "jolie-laide," hypen plus the "e."

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posted by Lala

Oct 24, 2007 12:14AM

It's not always about looking pretty.

However, Prada/Miu Miu has created some ugly stuff of late. Don't like it.

Toe cleavage and solvency...hmmm. That anecdotal report was...um...

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posted by faustine

Oct 24, 2007 3:38AM

That guy and his toe-cleavage thing is not a pervert, he's simply... an heterosexual man.
Let's face it : 99% of men find tulip skirts and large pants horridous. A lot about fashion has been about hiding curves lately, and this is not something that can please men.
I dress for myself and not for men, but still I'd not wear something which makes me look not good.

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posted by xxdeucexx

Oct 24, 2007 1:09PM

Some of comments really piss me off.

I am a straight guy that dresses pretty... fashion forward at times. Whenever I do, I always get compliments on my clothes (cardigans, capes, really skinny jeans), but no girl will ever be hitting on me when I do that - they assume I am gay or not masculine enough.

When I go out and wanna go meet women, I put on much more conventional clothing (fitted t-shirt, button down shirt, fitted but not tight jeans, etc) in which things work out much better.

The point is you can't expect to dress in an inconventional or androgynous manner (whether it's fashionable or cool or whatever is debatable) and expect the opposite sex to be all over your bag lady self. I really resent women who loveeeeeeee fashion on other guy friends but would never want their boyfriend to wear the same thing because it isn't masculine enough.

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posted by Ginge

Nov 24, 2007 8:12PM

Quirky-chic clothes make me feel fashionable and at the same time more of an individual, if not pretty.

I agree that they're definitely an ugly trend going on, but in some ways I'm not so sure if it's ugly as much as just different than what people are used to. And isn't that part of the point of fashion? To provide people with fresh alternatives?

And aren't wide-leg trousers supposed to be flattering? (Not if they're extremely wide, but so that they create a nice straight line.) That's what what Stacy and Clinton (not to mention Trinny and Susannah) have been preaching all along.
Of course it does depend on your body type - if you're legs are your best asset, why not show them off? But wide-legged pants can be especially flattering on those like myself with shorter legs.

I saw an article that explored this same concept in a recent Harper's Bazaar. The reporter visited some town in Spain (I believe) for some Prada event and tested out head-to-toe looks from the fall collection around town and in fashion circles to see what kind of reactions she would get. She definitely explored the whole dressing for women vs. dressing for men issue.

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