Gossip Girl Guesses

May 07, 2008 @ 3:55pm

serena and georgina.jpgOk - we know, alright?


We know Gossip Girl doesn't exactly qualify as news. We know we reference the show a lot as it is. We know it's probably weird to cancel Monday night plans to make sure we're parked on the couch at exactly 8pm.

But you know what else we know? We know Gossip Girl's as good as everyone says it is, and not just for the fashion - yes, we love the plot lines, too.

One of the best parts about Gossip Girl, other than the accessories, is that it's turning out to be a sort of murder mystery, and we've realized that all of the episodes are littered with clues.

So allow us to indulge ourselves (and if the comments section is to be believed, to indulge you guys, too) by musing a bit on what we think is going to happen in the next two episodes.

Please don't click through if you aren't up to speed with the show. Spoilers abound...

Obviously, the question of who Serena killed is the biggest mystery right now. Here are a couple guesses:

Scenario 1: Something to consider: It's most likely, since this is cable television and since we have to continue to like Serena after this whole thing blows over, that Serena didn't kill anyone in the first degree sense.

The tape in question begins with Georgina and the Unnamed Guy (UG) trying to get Serena in on a taped threesome.

Serena is drunk and has just slept with Nate (if you listen closely to the bits of the tape from the last episode, you hear Georgina ask her "Hey Baby, how are the new Mr. and Mrs. Shepard?" to which Serena replies "I just did something so stupid" which means that the tape starts right after Serena's drunkenly slept with Nate at the Shepard wedding) so she's sort of confused. She's probably mildly into the threesome, only for a minute, before she tries to break free (this is when you hear on the tape that she's "too hot" almost like she's struggling).

Now, it's also very likely, since this is old Serena and Georgina, that they are on some pretty hard drugs. At some point, the guy probably starts to OD, and since Serena and Georgina are young and stupid, they decide to just leave him and act like they were never there.

The only way that they could get away with this, of course, is if the DNA of many people is all over the room, which could certainly be the case if Chuck or somebody threw a little Constance Billard party up in one of the suites (we think it's safe to assume that the Shepard wedding happened at a big hotel).

So, this would definitely make them murderers but it would also explain how they've gotten away with it. UG was probably found OD'd, and people probably just assumed that he died partying too hard.

Also, this would explain Georgina's strange gifts to Serena: Champagne (what she was so messed up on when she went behind Blair's back with Nate and then got into a threesome), sex videos and handcuffs (like the threesome itself), and cocaine (what UG probably OD'd on).

The problem with Scenario 1? We think this version is just a little too trite for Josh Schwartz. He must have something better up his sleeve.

Scenario 2: Maybe during the beginning of the sex tape, Serena tries to break free, but UG gets aggressive in trying to get her to stay. Serena freaks out, picks up a heavy hotel telephone or something like that, hits him over the head in just the right way, and he dies. This is plausible because it's exactly what you'd do in that situation, and it makes it murder in self-defense, which again makes the Serena character redeemable.

But, of course, there are tons of problems with this one. What did they do with the body? How did they clean the room? Who was this guy so that he's never ever mentioned on the show as a friend that was killed? (We're betting he was random, actually...) Most importantly, how in the world were they not caught?

We've toyed with the idea that maybe Serena just thinks that she killed someone, that maybe Georgina is completely screwing with her. But we doubt it. We think Serena is at least smart enough to make sure of something like that before running away for a year, but also, we think there might have been a clue about this in the Hi, Society episode. The song at the dance kept repeating "Better lock it in your pocket, taking this one to the grave...Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead." Also, when Lily asks Georgina at the family dinner what she's doing in town, she responds, "Just killing time."

These two scenarios are our best guesses. But here's some stuff we actually would bet money on:

1. That Nate is going to unravel the whole Sarah mystery to Vanessa and Dan. He's hanging around with Vanessa, so he'll eventually run into her (Georgina could probably never guess that Nate would be going out with someone so random to their group). But, we're pretty sure that this will happen after Dan starts to take an interest in Georgina.

2. That Dan, like Jenny, will decide that the UES life is just too messed up for him, and that he's washing his hands of all of them. We're betting both of them end up going to Hudson with their mom for the summer.

3. That Rufus tries to bust up Lily's wedding after he realizes that Dan and Serena are no longer together.

4. That Chuck and Blair will spend a lot of time together over the summer (because it just has to be that way).

So. If you couldn't tell already, we spend a whole lot of time wondering about this show. If you think you can take a pretty educated guess as to what's going to happen, please, do share. We're dying to know.

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 4:18PM

i'm sad to see serena/dan go away. they were so sweet together. but i agree it has to happen if lily/rufus plotline goes further.

i'm impressed with the clues you extracted from the episodes!

if the tape is from the last year... what happened when serena was drugged by georgina in episode 15?

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posted by emilyebba

May 07, 2008 4:22PM

ha ha ha, my friend and fellow fashionista reader came up with almost these exact same scenarios last night! My biggest problem with #2 is that in the episode before this weeks Georgina says to Serena "you didn't just stand there like an innocent bystander" which makes me think that it wasn't just her in self defense.

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 4:23PM

another possible problem with #1: if this happened at/after the shepard's wedding wouldn't other people be in the know about UG's death?

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 4:30PM

i think another possibility is that serena gets too hot and goes out onto the balcony of the hotel. UG comes out and tries to get with her again. and since they are both drunk/high serena pushes him away and he falls over the balcony. serena and georgina could of just pretended they were never in the room or it happened after they left. serena would feel like she killed him without actualyl doing so.

posted by bastylefilegirl

May 07, 2008 4:32PM

I'm not as interested in the Rufus/Lily plot to tell you the truth, it's cute but filler for me. Thanks Fashioninsta for getting my mind all wound up.

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 4:33PM

oh my god this just made my entire day!!!!! Thank you fashionista! Ahhh I love Gossip Girl!!!! I have heard others speculate that Serena got pregnant and left to either have the baby or abort it?! But now with the killing someone thing - I think I have to go with scenario, with the guy ODing and them leaving him there because serena tells georgina that "if I go down, I'm taking you with me" so georgina must have had a prominent role in whatever happened for serena to say that to her!! I loveeeee how you guys picked up on those clues - especially the song at the dance!!!! I cannot wait for the next episode to see how this all unfolds! Yay for more gossip girl posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 4:38PM

what if the dude is killed during some kind of kinky S&M or asphyxiation scenario? fingers crossed, but it might be too grown-up for the cw.

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posted by doll

May 07, 2008 4:45PM

From EW Magazine:

"There will be flashbacks to what happened the night of the Shepherd wedding after Serena left Nate," explains Savage. "It involves Georgina, and it's the thing that drove Serena to boarding school"

As for season 2, "Some of our characters will be out of the city, some of them will be in the city, some of them will be coming back from traveling"...and the article mentions the Hamptons and new pairings...

you know you love me (only kidding, thats a bit overused now!)

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 4:46PM

The transition from high school superdrama to murder mystery is hilarious- I'm loving the analysis... I'm of the thought that it was self defense- that keeps the drama but then S is semi-innocent. Rufus is definitely going after Lily, no question there. And there has to be some huge confrontation between S and G... Can't wait!

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 5:02PM

my friends and i were talking and thought that maybe serena was pregnant after her fling with nate and got an abortion, but i guess that doesn't really go with any of the clues, or georgina

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 5:05PM

I think these are really good guesses. Sadly, even though scenario #1 is too trite, I bet it is still the case...Serena is destined to be the boring character forever!

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 5:05PM

another question is how serena's eye makeup looked so good when she was bawling to blair ...

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 5:18PM

I wish Gossip Girl was not on Mondays... or at least was still online. :( I haven't been able to watch a single episode since it came back after the strike.

I only saw the last few minutes of last episode when Serena was breaking down and confessed to Blair, so I'm really curious about what exactly happened! So, I like your theories! I'm glad they have a murder mystery though... at least that varies the plot line from other teen dramas.

Again, I'm really not all that up to date, but are Dan and Serena already over? The promo for next week had something like "I'm done" in it, but have they broken up before?

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 5:21PM

That episode was great. Incredible.
But I think Serena was under the influence of hard drugs and something went a little too far. What that something is, im not quite sure.

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 5:34PM

I agree, I can totally see Dan somewhat falling for Georgina and starting to resent the UES life. Georgina will make him beleive that the are more alike than he and Serena will every be, that they have more in common and more compatibility. Georgina is so the Oliver of Gossip Girl! And we all know what a mess that was... A tiff will spiral into a breakup between Serena and Dan! Then the murder mystery will be solved somehow and Georgina will suddenly tell the truth to Dan about everything. She will leave the show seeming very mellowed out and will have gotten past being the "lovely" person (not) that she currently is on the show.

posted by Jac

May 07, 2008 5:39PM

i like you guys talking about the show, even if its not fashion related per se. I think this is the only show you should do this with (unless the hills brings back the fashion influence) though since there is a fine line regarding whether or not this applies to the theme of the blog. I love it though, so I, for one, support it! Are Dan and Serena really going to be over? They kind of seem lke the Ross and Rachel (signature couple) of the show. As long as C/B stay together, I suppose Ill be ok...

posted by Emily

May 07, 2008 5:40PM

Hmm, I think scenario one is probably closest to what happened, but maybe with some crazier circumstances?

Like the first guest said,, you never find out what happened to Serena when she was drugged, who knows what Georgina did then. And Serena does say to her "I don't know how you managed to tape it.." (or something to that effect), which makes me think that they were in an unconventional setting; since it would probably be easy to hide a camera in a bedroom or hotel room.

My biggest question, though, is why Georgina gets styled so badly! Would your first impression of someone wearing those earings be "Whoa, this bitch is rich and dangerous!" ? Mine was "I think I stole something like that from Claire's when I was in 8th grade."

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 5:47PM

love the scenarios, but one problem: the song from "Hi, Society" is "Secret" by the Pierces, not some random song written especially for the episode!

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 6:31PM

dan DOES fall for georgina, except he still thinks its sarah.
theres paparazzi pictures of them kissing.
but thats all i know

posted by hannah

May 07, 2008 7:07PM

I got the impression that Serena didn't realize she had killed someone until she saw the tape. But then again, she could have just been so drugged out she didn't remember.

And more Gossip Girl posts!

posted by anonymoose

May 07, 2008 7:08PM

i kind of love how you guys are dissecting this the way people do with Lost (which I also love). both scenarios sound plausible. i like guest at 4:30's balcony theory too. i just hope they reveal it before season 2 and don't leave us hanging.

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 8:04PM

Does anybody else hope that Georgina just gets hit by a bus at the beginning of the next episode, Mean Girls-style?

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 8:07PM

Can I just say I am so totally bummed out by the impending implosion of Serena and Dan? SO bummed that I haven't even been able to watch any of the new episodes - I get the drift from spoilers and other net-based help, but I'm too sad to actually watch the drama unfold!! Am I emotionally invested in them surviving? Maybe, but they are 1xtrillion times better than Ryan/Marissa so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for happily ever after xoxo

posted by porscha

May 07, 2008 8:32PM

this is too good. i've been toying around with an idea similar to scenario 2. and i am so glad you mentioned the song from the Hi, Society episode. i remember watching that episode and thinking that that song was important for some reason, but now it really makes sense. i'd definitely bet money (or a marc jacobs bag) that dan and jenny will be going to hudson to get away from the UES life. i can't wait to see what happens.

posted by iloveyou

May 07, 2008 8:47PM

this reminds me of the way people dissect Beatles albums to try to find rumors of John Lennon's and "supposedly" Paul McCartney's death. My theory: UG ODs on drugs, none of which was Serena's fault, and out of jealousy/hate/pure bitchiness, Georgina blames/manipulates the situation so that Serena thinks it's her fault

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 8:53PM

May 07, 2008 8:04PM that would officially make my day, I mean as much as I love this murder-mystery/gossip girl thing, i can't stand georgina & her ruining serena & dan! ah this is getting way to good anymore, its like a hardcore addiction.

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 9:24PM

I bet Georgina had some whole convoluted plan to murder UG (like she poisoned him but made it appear an overdose), the drew Serena in to try and force her to share the blame/frame her. So what Serena saw in the tape looks like her and Georgina witnessing an OD and fleeing, but in fact Georgina murdered UG and Serena is pretty much blameless.

posted by syako

May 07, 2008 9:59PM

Can anyone else not get over seeing Harriett the Spy in too much eyeliner?

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 10:57PM

leave it to dan, honestly, to fall for georgina...become loquatious around the girl who bats an eyelash, esp. one who seems to be needy of so much help (remember when g strategically used "train" when talking to vanessa in the cafe)? "sarah" is so much the opposite of serena in the sense that ... serena isn't the classical damsel in distress (at least in dan's perspective maybe) with serena being affiliated with the higher tier of society. also, WHEN did brooklyn not be associated with being cool?? I guess when you're part of the "Upper East Siders".

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 11:22PM

My theory is that Georgina is Gossip Girl...when Serena and her where on the street at the end she said something along the lines of i know more than you think, even before you know it or something? Gossip girl does know everything before everyone else..i mean this is if we figure everything Gossip girl reports is based upon emails/texts/photos she receives from everyone else?! It could be too far fetched but...

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posted by guest

May 07, 2008 11:40PM

this post justifies why i love, love,love fashionista

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 1:26AM

I'm sorry but this taking on to much of an O.C. vibe. Doesn't anyone remember how Marissa killed Ryan's brother? Then there was that whole entire fling with that drifter before she was offed and how alcohol and drugged fueled that volatile relationship was? No wonder Jason Schwartz wanted Mischa Barton to play Georgina, it is basically Marissa just on another coast and not as innocent. Hopefully it stays in this semi-realistic area it is in and doesn't drift off into imaginary land like The O.C. because how it is being set up....it is going downhill fast just like The O.C. did. Also Blake Lively is turning into the Mischa Barton of the group, hopefully she doesn't make the same foolish decision as Mischa and leave the show.

posted by valenlb

May 08, 2008 1:27AM

Love the GG post! Amazing...

Also, does anyone else not get why the HECK Georgina would go through so much friggin trouble to torture Serena like this? What is this girl's motive?... I can't wait for next Monday!

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 2:47AM

My worst fear is that Georgina will succeed in destroying Serena and then she will wander around like a sad sack and her and dan will never be together ala Ryan and Marissa. I hate sad sack girls. They are too pretty to be sooky!

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 6:29AM

Yeah I can definetley see Dan taking an interest in Georgina, but he'll be over that once he realizes she's not who she pretends to be. But, if she went to Constance Billard before she left for however long, wouldn't Dan know her? I know it never says where she went to school, but it was just a guess.

And I hate the Lily/Rufus plotline. I mean seriously, its just creepy now. Dan/Serena was so much better, but what can you do?

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 9:31AM

hey you can watch gossip girl online at www.surfthechannel.com the newest episode is always up already tuesday morning i get happy when i get to work that day

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 11:28AM

watch-gossip-girl.com !!! ALL EPS! x

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 11:57AM

The reason GG isn't available for streaming is that the CW want us to watch the show when aired--it's expensive to produce and they need more people to watch it on Monday nights. It has been renewed for another season but if people carry on watching it online or rival sites, it won't get a third season. Advertising pays for the show and if we don't watch it when it airs, and if ratings stay low, the CW will cut it loose. Going to these pirate sites doesn't help the show.

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 12:02PM

I, for one like the whole Rufus/Lily plot. I think it's sweet and it'll always be on-going until they actually get together. It seems that their relationship is deeper than it was portrayed ever before.

Dan/ Serena on the other hand is just plain boring to me. If you want to compare it to the OC, I still prefer Ryan/Marissa just because they were sweet and cute together.

I am loving Chuck more and more these days. He's a good guy but not as boring as Dan, obviously. His cheekiness makes him more interesting as a character. Dan seem to mumble a alot!! When Seth did it, it was cute.. but when it's Dan who's doing it, it's pretty lame. Favorite character as of now is Chuck and Blair, these two are always cooking up something interesting to watch. Georgina too, but she's just too nasty for my liking.

I've been tossing around ideas as to what might happen with the whole murder situation but I still am not sure what will happen. I think the best bet would be Serena in self-defense, or else it would just crush her now-nice-girl character. I also think that Chuck and Blair will help Serena big time since there wouldn't be anyone else she can turn to. If Georgina and Dan are going to be together, it might be more interesting to watch just because we know that she's faking as Sarah and Dan doesn't know it.

Oh my.. Does my addiction show? I just had to put my two cents into the discussion =) Can't wait for next week's episode.

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 12:10PM

I was thinking the other day that maybe instead it was an older guy (someone's father even?!) who could have had a heart attack, and they could have left without helping. they would get away with it pretty easily

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 1:15PM

We're all GG junkies, but who can help it? I predict we will get some sort of answer as to what happened next episode, but then get a deeper story with a twist in a later episode. This goes along with the theory that G makes S believe she did something wrong, when really G is behind the whole thing. Josh is smart - he wouldn't put this plot line out there if he wasn't going to deliver something outrageous to go along with it. It will be full of surprises, and we'll still love S when it unravels (and understand G more - she has to have a motive).
Perhaps B and C will team up to save S and this will get those two back together (which will keep viewers happy when D and S break up).

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 3:04PM

I think a plausible Scenario #3 is that GEORGINA is the sole KILLER, and that Serena was too wasted to remember anything, but that the REST of the TAPE actually clears Serena's name and indicts Georgina...at the cafe the other episode, she never planned to show the "rest of the film" to Dan and Vanessa, knowing Serena would stop her.

Maybe it's just because I know Michelle Trachtenberg has that Vampire Killer gene, but I suspect she may be the murderess and Serena the clueless fall guy (or should I say fall girl, as in gossip girl).

xoxo
Michael Williams

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posted by maw_photo

May 08, 2008 3:32PM

RE: Gossip Girl No Longer Streaming Online...

I think it's a shame that the Nielsen ratings system is so outdated that it can't quantify the number of viewers who were watching the episodes streaming online at the official CW site, as that is how I kept up with the show before the writers' strike, and now I hate missing it, as I don't bother with cable and TiVo, but I do have an expendable income.

Obviously advertising pays for the show, and the CW has to show advertising they are reaching an audience--but they should be able to sell ONLINE advertising for the streaming episodes and to quantify the number of hits their site gets for that, which should be seen as an asset, and frosting on the cake, for potential advertisers, especially since this market is young and tech-savvy, just like Gossip Girl.

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 3:52PM

maybe there was another person in the room, filming perhaps? i don't think i can wait for monday.

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 4:45PM

I keep thinking about Georgina's early comment about "you know how I get when my feelings are hurt"...perhaps UG hurt her feelings or scorned her in some way?

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 6:09PM

maw-photo--the reasons you give are the ones that saved GG for *this* season. But the economics of television are that national advertising pays for the show. Online streams have fewer ads and, for a variety of reasons, advertisers will only a small fraction of the price for online ads as they don't like them as much. That's the facts of the business and it won't change soon (although it is changing--if this were 2 or 3 years ago, GG would have been gone before the strike). The internet is full of unreliable ads/scammers (which downgrades the value of online spots for most advertisers) and the time slot issue is key--they want these ads to show at exactly the time they paid for, not at our convenience. I suggest watching GG as it airs or even Tivoing it/using a DVR (counts more than watching an online stream). I've heard execs say that if these ratings don't grow, the show won't stay on for a third season. They want to keep it on and that's exactly why they took it off the CW site to stop people streaming it, but they can't afford to keep it if we don't watch. It's an expensive show and those promos for the show's return were really expensive.

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 6:22PM

that's why it was renewed, maw_photo. Online ads don't pay for the show and aren't worth the same as TV ads (fact of the business). If we don't watch it, they will cancel it.

posted by Kiki

May 08, 2008 8:38PM

Okay, I definitely think that the girls were reacting to some sort of violence. Perhaps the threesome was S's idea, or G did something to protect S from the... how should I put this... the unwanted advances of UG? It would explain some of her willingness to meet with her when she got back. There seemed to be a sense of debt in the way Serena first acted when G got back. Just a guess. Also, to support the response to maw_photo, it's so important to support shows that you like by actually watching. We all complain all the time that there is nothing good to watch on TV, well here's a clever show with interesting characters and great clothes/music. Let's watch!!!

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posted by guest

May 08, 2008 10:55PM

Maybe someone already noticed but it's interesting that the first time Dan sees Serena when she comes back in the pilot (I know, old) the song "Young Folks" is playing. In which it is said "If I told you things I did before, told how I used to be, would you go along with someone like me?"

Sorry if it's irrelevant, do hope Dan and Serena get back together.

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posted by chicagochelsea

May 09, 2008 11:55AM

On a other note, where were Chuck and Nate? I missed seeing those two!

Georgia is just crazy, who knows! She could have lied about the whole thing, and killed someone herself, and made Serena think it was her.

She is one twisted girl!

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posted by guest

May 09, 2008 12:26PM

I think the tape was new, from the night G slipped something into Serena's drink. Because dan asks her "did you sleep with someone else?" and she replies "yes".

If it had been old (pre dan) it wouldn't have mattered and he wouldn't have walked away.

In that case S is totally innocent in the fact that thats pretty much rape because she was under the influence of something (maybe a rufie?) so she wouldn't intelligently say no like she would if she had been straight that night.

The tape was sent to serena AFTER she got home, then G showed up.

As fo the murder, at first I thought she killed G but G is in the preveiw for this monday's episode. I'm thinking "i killed someone" might just be metophorical.

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posted by guest

May 09, 2008 3:13PM

You can also buy episodes of GG online on itunes for just $1 which wouldn't hurt the fiscal element, it's only a dollar and you still get to see the most fab show on television at your leisure.

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posted by guest

May 09, 2008 3:13PM

You can also buy episodes of GG online on itunes for just $1 which wouldn't hurt the fiscal element, it's only a dollar and you still get to see the most fab show on television at your leisure.

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posted by guest

May 09, 2008 5:18PM

thank god i wasnt the only one who noticed there was absolutely NO nate in the last episode! :(

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posted by guest

May 12, 2008 11:34PM

Well you girls certainly called it

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posted by guest

May 13, 2008 12:06AM

Looks like scenario one was right! AWESOME EPISODEEE! I am completely and utterly obsessed!

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posted by guest

May 14, 2008 4:03PM

well people, I guess it wasn't a little too trite for Josh Schwartz. and now I cannot wait for the series finale! it's getting OBESESSIONAL!

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