posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 12:43PM

P.S: I'm going to try this on a flutter sleeved shirt

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 12:46PM

Adoooore! I am making one for all my BF. I think I like yours even better.

posted by anonymoose

Aug 14, 2008 12:48PM

can i ask a question? i am just curious - why are you guys so averse to including your face whenever you do these DIYs? i dunno, i just think the headless photos are kind of weird.

posted by Nerdalie

Aug 14, 2008 12:57PM

I like yours even more than the original!

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:05PM

Please do more DIY!!

posted by Katie

Aug 14, 2008 1:08PM

Will this withstand a washing though? That would be my only worry.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:13PM

I love this DIY project! I second #6, please more DIY's!! #7, I would suggest you wash by hand!

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:23PM

How is this at all different from a knock-off?

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:32PM

Ugh, #9 so good at pointing out the contradictions on this website.

posted by fauvism3

Aug 14, 2008 1:40PM

If you want to get into semantics than yes this is a knockoff. But it is definitely "better" than an f21 knockoff because a.) they did it themselves b). they did it b/c they liked the style and not because they wanted something from E&J and C). because they are not making a profit.

But let's not resurrect that million comment debacle from the other day. IMO, this is cute.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:42PM

I strongly agree with both #9 and 10. Fashionista you should know better, even if the shirt is overpriced!

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:45PM

"We especially love this Pave Tee, but at $265 it's a little (okay, a lot) more than we'd ever spend on a t-shirt. So we devised a pretty easy DIY."

"I winced. Such an irrelevant excuse and yet kept in a holster."

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:50PM

how well does fabric glue hold in the wash?

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:54PM

My sentiments exactly #11 :)

posted by valenlb

Aug 14, 2008 1:55PM

This is a fabulous idea... i think i'll try it out myself!

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:56PM

how is it that you don't consider your DIY the same as copyright infringement? what's the difference between you making one for yourself bc it's cheaper, and someone buying a knock off at f21 for the same reason?

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 1:58PM

By far the worst DIY project were the drip paint shoes a la Sergio Rossi/YSL or the Chloe Sevigny tank. Complete knock-offs, just like this tee. It's pure hypocrisy! I can understand a DIY that is inspired by an original... like a headband or painting your sandals but...

At least make it a DIY that's worth wearing! (Like cutting a long sleeve lightweight cotton tee, outfitting it with thick twill tape and having a brand new summer cardigan!)

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 2:05PM

ok.. thisis a great diy.. but what happens when F21

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 2:05PM

ok.. this is a great diy.. but what happens when F21 decides to make it too.. thats a big ol' contridiction

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 2:18PM

just as a tip if you want to sew on sequins, buy seed beads. then go up through the hole of the sequin and then through the hole of the bead and back down through the hole of the sequin, it is sturdier and prettier. then the sequin is held down by the bead and you don't see any thread.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 2:25PM

i think the key word here in how it's not a contradiction is "sell." also, the fact that they admit what it's a copy of rather than act like they designed it themselves...

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 2:41PM

Shouldn't this be filed under "Adventures in Copyright"?

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 3:08PM

Contradiction much?

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 3:08PM

when you aren't making a profit off of someone else's design it isn't copyright infringement.
the idiots who are "calling them out" on the know nothing about copyright laws, or their purpose.
when f21 takes a design and uses it completely, and makes a PROFIT from it then they are breaking copyright laws because the only person who should make a PROFIT off a design is the person who made the design.
The government doesn't care what arts and crafts projects you do.
and since when was it a bad thing to be a little creative? is jenny humphrey making "inspired by" dresses on GG a bad thing? they wouldn't put it on the show if she were doing something considered illegal unless there was a story line attatched.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 3:14PM

i completely agree, when it comes to fashionista when they deem it acceptable to knock off something its allright. When f21 puts a label on it's not. hAS FOREVER 21 EVER said they act liked they designed it. BTW its not such amazing idea lets put some sequins on a shirt, so even is f21 did it who cares. Its just sequins on a shirt done before will be done again.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 3:14PM

How is this any different from "Adventures in Copyright"? I believe it to be the same concept of taking a designers idea and remaking it because you can't AFFORD the original. And by posting it for your readers to do as well, it is also taking away E&J's potential buyers, no? So why all the bru-ha-ha over F21, H&M, UO, etc? Tsk tsk tsk...pretentious!

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 3:15PM

give them a break. when f21 sells something, the $20 dollars you spend go in to their corporate bank accounts, whereas when you buy from a original designer, (most of) the money goes to them, to further their design process. but if you can't afford the designer version, it's MUCH better to make the thing yourself than to give your money to someone who will just use it to make more ripoffs.

posted by Halie

Aug 14, 2008 3:23PM

Don't meet up for drinks with the other interns while wearing that... they'll probably wince and write a another post on how abhorred they are that their very close friend chooses to wear knockoffs.

posted by fauvism3

Aug 14, 2008 4:01PM

I am starting to think that the guests here think pretentious is a big word. Other than calling fashionista hypocritical and pretentious, what points have you made? Thanks to the guest who rightly pointed out that this is not copyright infringement, but that the f21 stuff is.

I doubt Fashionista is trying to funnel money away from the Olsens and give it to American Apparel, elmer's glue, and whatnot. They are offering the recession minded customers an alternative to the E&J shirt that is also a fun, boring August afternoon craft project. For those who can afford and are willing to pay for the E&J shirt, and like it, they will go buy it from Intermix or Barneys. End of story.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 4:24PM

Wow, talk about a snobby attitude maybe you get off your high horse and maybe not give so much attidude and you will get there in life. It is the same thing on a grander scale f21, and for people who do not have the time and sit there and do it, or be paid for doing such stupid projects all day long. But then fashionista talks about people and places when they choose to do so.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 4:40PM

I don't care if fashionista is or isn't making money off of this. They are copying other folk's designs. How obnoxious would it be to walk down broadway and to see a person wearing a poorly made rip off of your design that they learned how to make via a fashion blog. Should you be flattered? Yeah right. I suggest that fashionista comes up with original DIY ideas, not based off of other designer's pieces.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 4:42PM

this whole beating a dead horse thing is well and good but nobodys answered the question about whether this will hold up in the washer..

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 5:08PM

You don't have to profit from something to for it to be a copyright infringement.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 5:11PM

I love DIY's! Keep them coming.

posted by FashionIntelligentsia

Aug 14, 2008 5:39PM

@Halie - that was hilarious!

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 5:43PM

If you are not selling it and making a profit, it's not copyright infringement. It's a craft project. If this is copyright infringement so is every macaroni picture you made in preschool and every lanyard you made at camp.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 5:53PM

People should relax. It's a freaking TShirt with sequins on the sleeves. No Balmain or Balenciaga amazing dress idea.
Let's say just say it's a DIY inspired by....
The proof is it's even cooler. Fashionista DYI rocks!

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 5:55PM

I don't get the big deal about the so called copyright infringement mainly beacuse you can't copyright a something so simple as a skirt pattern or color scheme that's mainly why knockoffs aren't illegal, just a bit tacky. It becomes copyright infringment when the intention is to defraud the consumer and make them believe they are buying the original ie fake LV, Gucci and Chanel bags. Otherwise if I see a YSL skirt and make a similar one with a F21 tag or as a DIY its ok.In case you haven't noticed designers rip each other off all the time, its usually more of a who did it first thing.

And further more who cares? If I'm too broke to get an original or too lazy to make one who am I hurting other than myself by going to F21 and buying a inspired by piece that will fall apart in the wash.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 6:09PM

Everyone is complaining about the copyright infringement what about the fact that this hideous style of t-shirt is back in fashion.

I remember a couple years ago they were everywhere. BCBG did one (IDK if it was the original but it was the one everyone ripped off). I thought it was ugly then and I think its ugly now.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 6:13PM

I think the recession is having its effect on you guys...U come to fashionista to simply vent off your frustration....HEHEHEHEHEHE

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 6:23PM

25/30: 34 is correct. profit is not a requirement for copyright infringement. it may be a factor in proving damages, but that's another question. furthermore, clothing designs are not generally eligible for copyright protection, so the point is moot.

while it's not copyright infringement, it sure is hypocrisy. i see no way f-nista can distinguish what they are doing here (stealing the arguable sweat equity of a designer slaving away in a studio trying to invoke the muse and committing it to design in order to save money) with what they had previously denounced (buying a product that co-opts the time and expense it costs for a designer to innovate). aside from the fact that the former is a single instance of the supposed crime while the latter constitutes participation in a systematic "stealing", they both (arguably) deprive the true innovators of their intellectual property. conceptions of right and wrong should not change based on scale. killing a kitten is just as bad as killing a litter.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 7:29PM

The appeal of Elizabeth and James and The Row's $200+ shirts is fit and material. The fit of this American Apparel shirt is terrible. You could find something better at Old Navy or Urban Outfitters, that actually looks like it was created for a woman. If you're going to spend your time and sequins/glue money, I would suggest starting with a shirt that fits.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 7:58PM

How about we start doing inspiration DYIs like instead of exactly using a t-shirt take the idea and place the sequins elsewhere- on the collar, the body or on a long-sleeved shirt. It won't be the same effect but it'll be an inspiration. Holler at #2 with the flutter sleeve idea.

posted by Ginge

Aug 14, 2008 8:10PM

I liked this E&J shirt and I like the DIY!

btw, is it bad that when I scanned comment #41 I thought it said "simply vera" instead of "simply vent"?
I should probably step away from the computer...

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 8:11PM

ooh that's lovely. thanks fashionista!

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 8:32PM

Ha ha! I'm with post# 41. A vacation and some extra spending money will do you catty subscribers some good! It's fashion not politics! Lighten up people.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 9:32PM

Lighten up? Creative people do not like to be copied. Copying is done by those who cannot come up with an original idea themselves, or are not confident in their own voice. Stop copying, fashionista, and create some original diys.....

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 10:02PM

i think both shirts are hideous.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 10:14PM

I love that the commenters complain that Fashionista is on their high horse when it's actually all the bitchy commenters that think their opinion matters. It's a freaking DIY project, she's not making any money off of it and it's for fun. Read through it, and move on. No one cares that you're still stuck on the whole knock off thing. If you don't agree with it, don't comment, just read the next story that strikes your fancy.

Jesus.

In response to the story, I think it's really cute but I think adding buttons and sequins would make it extra cute.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 10:39PM

So weird... when I first saw this I went, "Wait, I _have_ that t-shirt. And I sure didn't pay a zillion dollars for it." So I went and looked, and my virtually identical, grey with actually-much-cooler-and-more-subtle sequins on the sleeves t-shirt is from Express from three or four years ago.

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 10:39PM

Comment #50: "In response to the story, I think it's really cute but I think adding buttons and sequins would make it extra cute."

I totally agree. I think the shirt needs an extra something. Maybe a nice ribbon...

posted by guest

Aug 14, 2008 11:05PM

HA! HA! $265 for an "affordable" t-shirt??! isn't this supposed to be the diffusion line after the row??

posted by Halie

Aug 15, 2008 12:14AM

Although I would like to say that I like your version better than MK&A's.

posted by guest

Aug 15, 2008 12:18AM

Comment 25 - You don't need to make a profit to breach copyright. It seems you're the idiot.

Copyright = The legal right granted to an author, composer, playwright, publisher, or distributor to exclusive publication, production, sale, or distribution of a literary, musical, dramatic, or artistic work.

I'd hate to stand next to a Fashionista in a F21 rip-off skirt and DIY t-shirt! What would she say to me then?

posted by fauvism3

Aug 15, 2008 9:42AM

Seriously guys it's a sequin t-shirt, I doubt that mk and ash are going to see it and shit a brick thinking that fashionista ripped them off.

CALM DOWN people. Since when are you all so ivory tower in your spending/buying habits? I'm pretty sure a lot of the complainers were the ones buying f21 themselves.

posted by guest

Aug 15, 2008 11:26AM

@#2: what a cool idea! i bet that would be a more difficult DIY, but it could look really fabulous.

posted by guest

Aug 15, 2008 3:37PM

to guest 42, I hardly think the olsen twins are "slaving away in the studio trying to pay tribute to the muse"...despite my shared olsen-girl-crush, I've read interviews, and while their clothes may be a little better than other celebrity-designed lines, it's still just that. Proenza Schouler they're not.

posted by guest

Aug 15, 2008 6:57PM

A t-shirt with sequins on the sleeves is hardly a design at all, let alone one worthy of calling out for "copyright infringement." Some people need to begin picking their battles lest their panties twist themselves into oblivion.

posted by guest

Aug 16, 2008 11:59AM

i think the real problem here is that the t-shirt needs a good pressing! look at all those creases!!!!!

posted by guest

Aug 17, 2008 12:32PM

I think it would look about a million times better if you sewed the sequins on with beads like the E&J one instead of gluing them on. I also like the rhinestones better than the grommets because of the difference in size, the little silver grommets just get lost in all that.

To me, the DIY doesn't really have the same appeal as the E&J one, it just looks like you randomly glued a ton of sequins to a shirt. Not enough depth, and there's too many traces of shirt showing through.

posted by guest

Aug 18, 2008 4:13PM

MORE DIY! MORE DIY!

posted by guest

Sep 19, 2008 6:29PM

People, honestly. It's a tee shirt with sequins on the sleeves. We're not discussing Prada here. I had this shirt in the fifth grade, and I'm pretty sure it came from Wal-Mart. The Olsens don't own the copyright to tee-shirts or sequins, and Fashionista isn't going to be raided by their personal ninja squad just for sewing some sparklies onto a $5 shirt.

posted by Pretty Young Thing

Apr 29, 2009 4:30PM

Funny looking at this now. I bought the E&J original at Scoop in October for like $40- marked down to $80 and then 50% off. It's all in the nonchalant fit of the top- and the varying sized rhinestones on the sleeves. It's a very high-class t-shirt- total oxymoron but totally true. This diy actually just looks cheesy because it lacks pizazz since sequins are so one-dimensional.