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Nightmare on YSL Street

ysl muse bag.jpgWe just got an email from a pretty distraught reader.

She was on vacation, caved to peer pressure and bought herself a YSL Muse bag. She’d never spent more than $300 on a bag before, but was so swept away by its beauty that she had to have it. She stared at it for two days before taking it entirely out of the dustbag and into the real world. Within two hours, she realized that the leather strip around the signature lock on the front of the bag was peeling off.

She took it back to the store the next day where the same woman who sold her the $1,400 bag proceeded to give her hell. The salesperson demanded the receipt, told her it wasn’t a big deal, ripped the stitch out entirely, asked her if she’d “abused” it and told her that if she liked, she could pay to have it fixed.

Eventually, it did get fixed. But we’ve noticed, or heard, more and more people complaining about the quality of accessories from major houses. The focus, profit wise, is now almost entirely on the handbags, the shoes, the scarves etc. - the clothes are just the pretty bonus. But has the super fast, mass production of the accessories led to poorer quality?

Not that that even begins to explain the salesperson - but that’s worth a whole separate post.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 12:26PM

Wait a second

wasn't your whole rant in the AIC posts about how when you buy expensive this doesn't happen.

Anyway, most of these brands don't hand-make their bags. Its bound to happen. Quality control is plummeting.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 12:27PM

My friend's boyfriend bought her a Gucci bag... after a week of using it she realized that all her lip glosses were missing. There was an enormous hole in the lining of the bag. She brought the bag (with receipt) to Saks fifth where he bought it and they wouldn't take it back or fix it because that wasn't the specific Saks he had bought it from. They yelled at her and she called her boyfriend crying because they gave her such grief about the damn hole in her bag that she didn't even cause.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 12:40PM

i am a designer purse fanatic and reading this article is such a turn off... it's just so sad to spend sooo much money on something you think is gonna last you a lifetime... =C

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 12:43PM

so true, im not saying what brands but some items of designer stuff i've seen is so badly made...*ahem prada

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 12:43PM

how awful! handbags must be where designer companies make their ridiculous profit. i still want a muse, though--it's gorgeous.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 12:51PM

YSL salespeople traditionally are some of the nicest people working in luxury retail behind the smiling happy Marc Jacobs employees. But, you should write something about salespeople. I have been brought to tears by a handful of awful shopgirls, turning me against those brands and stores forever.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 12:57PM

That's sad. So many companies making profit from the name on the item as opposed to the quality. I would be ashamed to do that to my customers...

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posted by fauvism3

Aug 21, 2008 1:02PM

Nowadays having the handle made in Italy makes it legal to say the bag was made in Italy, even if the majority was made elsewhere. But I didn't expect this from YSL...

#6-totally know what you mean. Barneys co-op employees are so nice but go to the advanced collections and it's like Siberia, you can feel the iciness. And I have bought stuff too so it's not like I'm just browsing.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 1:06PM

quality has severely declined even among those such as ysl. i so badly wanted the givenchy nightengale, however, when i went to barneys to check it out it felt worse than a fake. the quality of the leather was so poor. i was shocked and disappointed.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 1:16PM

Do I really even need to bring up the YSL star shoes? Retailing for about 1200 if you were lucky to score them on sale for I dont know what like 600? These stunners from EVERY single person I know who've bought a pair has had the stars fall off. They are a work of art for sure and I adore YSL but what do you do with something so expensive you love that you can't even wear? Carry super glue EVERY where you go and pray you don't lose one out at night? It's unfair. Mine are still in box until I get them stitched, yes stitched together.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 1:42PM

Next time you ask yourselves why people buy knockoffs, reference this article.

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posted by maddikins509

Aug 21, 2008 1:44PM

Its unfortunate to hear such reputable brands with low quality hardware. A shoe that I have collected over the years, but known for their signature bows for falling off are Ferragamos. Honestly I have just gotten used to it and have Gorilla glue on hand.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 1:47PM

Don't get me started on power-tripping salespeople. From the way salesclerks in high-end boutiques treat customers, you would think they could actually afford what they are selling.

Furthermore, if I'm shopping on a saturday afternoon, I don't want to feel like I have to get dressed to the nines to go into a store such as YSL. However, to get decent service I feel like I have to.

What is funny is that I am probably more inclined to spend more than a fashion-victim who walks in decked out in logos. On more than one occasion, I have refrained from giving a salesclerk what was probably his or her biggest commission of the day due to poor service. I call those my "Pretty Woman" moments.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:02PM

AMEN to #13!!!

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posted by JennyB

Aug 21, 2008 2:03PM

I have never undertsood snooty salespeople. Wasn't it Stanley Marcus who implored the Neiman's employees to treat everyone with respect, regardless of their appearance? Too bad the current Neiman's employees (at least here) don't take that to heart.
My parents own a relatively high-end furniture store. I was working there before I started grad school, and one day a woman came in looking like she just rolled out of bed. I am so thankful that the store policy was to treat everyone kindly (not that I wouldn't have treated her kindly, but you know what I mean), because she ended up being the wife of a local NHL star and bought about $100,000 worth of furniture from me.
I repeat, I will never, never understand snooty salespeople.

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posted by penneya

Aug 21, 2008 2:06PM

It's gotten out of hand, I would rather pay more for a bag that I know is a rare, hand-crafted piece of art than have these major houses lower their leather and production quality just to reach a broader spectrum of people.

What makes these bags so incredible is that they should be rare, walking ten block on 5th Ave in midtown and you see at least 15-25 Muse bags. That alone should tell you how fast YSL is cranking them out of the factory...

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:15PM

Stick to Hermes and Bottega Veneta

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:24PM

i've never dealt with ysl people before, but i have been to the high end stores in las vegas and NYC and the prada people were really nice, but the chanel people were awful! i know i was only buying nail polish (the blue that i couldn't find anywhere at home so i had to get it in vegas), but come on! not every person that comes into the store is going to buy a couple thousand dollars worth of stuff! she was really rude, and if i didn't want that nail polish so much i would have just walked out. instead she only got the stink eye.
I just have to say though- the saks and prada people in atlanta are awesome and i've never gotten better service or better quality- unlike #4 i've never had a problem with my prada purchases- my recent lace bag included. they are so nice and never pushy- which is rare in commission based work. i recently got an ink stain on one of my stripped bags and the seal from a corner of my fairy bag was worn away- i took them to the atlanta store (where i did not buy them), they were so nice and accomadating and fixed both of them within a week. i only had to pay for the stain removal and it was reasonable. so it you're ever in atl and you have the urge to shop high end- phipps plaza is where to go. and stop into jeffery's right nect to saks b/c they have THE BEST shoe collection!

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:31PM

It's awful. I'm against rip-off cause I think if you're going to buy a luxury object for thousands bucks it (kind of) worths them. You're spending for the unique design, for the luxury garnment/leather, for what it rapresents. I f it wouldn't be like that why are rip off worse?
An interesting report about it has been made from an italian tv show "Report" in a episode called something like "slaves of luxury". It shows how possible is (at least in Italy) to do the 30% of the work in other countries (read: China and southern Asia) and call the product "Made in Italy". And that is legal. But the reality is that the proportion are inverted: 30%Italian, 70% somewhere else.
Is it the end of real luxury? Should me stick to the rip off? I hope NO!

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:31PM

It's awful. I'm against rip-off cause I think if you're going to buy a luxury object for thousands bucks it (kind of) worths them. You're spending for the unique design, for the luxury garnment/leather, for what it rapresents. I f it wouldn't be like that why are rip off worse?
An interesting report about it has been made from an italian tv show "Report" in a episode called something like "slaves of luxury". It shows how possible is (at least in Italy) to do the 30% of the work in other countries (read: China and southern Asia) and call the product "Made in Italy". And that is legal. But the reality is that the proportion are inverted: 30%Italian, 70% somewhere else.
Is it the end of real luxury? Should me stick to the rip off? I hope NO!

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:35PM

I had the complete opposite experience with Jimmy Choo--I brought my year old bag there to be refurbished (i.e. cleaned after too much wear) and the staff treated me well and was extremely nice (even though i told them i got my bag at saks) and it was only $35 to have the bag refurbished.

That said I wouldn't buy a jimmy choo bag again--the leather and metal fixtures didnt hold up nearly as well as my other bags.

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posted by zinzielizabeth

Aug 21, 2008 2:38PM

Totally agree with #6 (and the rest of you, to boot). Had to hand in my MJ cultmember card after being mercilessly chewed out by an AWFUL saleswoman at the Newbury St store who claimed they didn't even do repairs. Also subject to the wretched "What did you DOOO to it?!?" remark, oh and my favorite: "I've never seen that happen before." as if I was lying that my bag was broken.

Then again, I ended up taking the bag to the Marc store in LA (when it was finally on its very last leg... A few loose stitches quickly turned into a non-functional strap), received a thousand apologies, a fix-up for the bag and free perfume! Go figure. Maybe it was just a bad day in Boston...

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posted by bastylefilegirl

Aug 21, 2008 2:39PM

You have to be really careful even at legit places. I have a friend that works at Neiman Marcus and they said someone returned a Louis bag and it turned out to be a fake. I also purchased as Louis bag from a eluxury.com a couple years back and took it to a Luxury consignment store, and the store told me it was a fake...I have my recipt from eluxury, but no one has returned my call or my email regarding my authenticity complaint....now that's a true adventure in copyright ahahaha!

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:40PM

I have had a problem with the Prada in the Americana, i took my prada bag with me overseas and when i came back it was ripped on the seam and the woman looked at my bag and blamed me even when my mom said i am very careful with it, because it was slighly dirty come on its nylon it will get a little dirty. This Prada always has a attitude

I have also hear problem witha girl i know who's burbery bag bubbled at the bottom and they gave her a new one right then and there. I never though have had a problem at Louis Vuitton when i went in all in the Americana this happen.

I have a large coach cloth bag and its ripping on top

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:47PM

I had nearly the same experience: bought a jimmy choo bag a couple of weeks ago. Thought it is a lifetime investement or so. The leather strip of the zipper came of after two days using the bag. Some of the gold ornaments already started to chip of. Terrible.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:48PM

Wow, thats scarey because my boyfriend got me a michael kors bag from eluxury.

I been noticing trend of how louis just goes up every year from the wallet i had from them that got stolen, and the speedy bag

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posted by fauvism3

Aug 21, 2008 2:50PM

^^ Barneys apparently accepted 2 fake Goyard bags as returns at the beginning of the proliferation of fakes...eek.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:52PM

Number 23 if you bought it from eluxury it is not fake as eluxury is owned by LVMH.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:53PM

I recently bought a pair of Louboutin flats and was thrilled about this purchase as they were my first pair of his shoes and i had so longed for a pair. Turns out they HURT my feet so badly! It was awful- it took two weeks of bleeding and blisters to wear them in and still to this day i cannot wear them two days in a row.Plus to make matters worse, i've had them for about a month now and the lining inside is coming unglued and the sole is already splitting- and i cant be wearing them THAT much given the pain they inflict. Needless to say i'm very disappointed in the quality.

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posted by Fabulosity

Aug 21, 2008 2:54PM

i have GUCCI bag that the zipper broke a few month after i started using it..i brought it to the store with NO recepit and they said- bring it back when your ready and we will take care of it. I buy alot of YSL and the service i get there is immeasurable...and the same goes for SAKS- now i'm not a person with "much bank" and i do get my fair share of people ignoring me at shops but not all sales people are created the same.

I noticed that most times when they are on commisson thats when they are being really bratty about returns b/c they lose money...its STILL NO EXCUSE to be rude.

but for real...dont cry..its only fashion! have fun :-)

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posted by lisaj

Aug 21, 2008 2:54PM

This is a really sad story, but what I don't get is why people let these women working in the retail stores make them feel bad about things that are not their fault. I have had girls at retail stores try to put me down for returning damaged product but I don't let them talk to me like that. If they are being rude to you either ask to speak with their manager and tell them they can not speak to you like that or just plain tell them off! Really who do they think they are? They are just a shop assistant!!!

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 2:59PM

I will say that although I prefer to shop at independent boutiques (Louis boston in Boston, Mario's in Seattle, etc), I do obviously go into shops like YSL and Vuitton on occassion.

As I implied before, I've been treated poorly in YSL by sanctimonious salesclerks, so I avoid it like the plaque. However, I always have fun in Vuitton. The clerks at Vuitton always start out as bit cold, but if you get them to warm up they love to bitch about how overpriced the merchandise is. There is something sickly satisfying about hearing a clerk, who hocks $3,000 bags, compare the goods to "the crap you can buy on Canal."

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 3:00PM

xo, #13

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 3:05PM

That's why I only buy bags made in the USA. Unfortunately many of the "Italian" bags these days are made in China and only finished in Italy like Prada, DG, Gucci etc. Its no secret but they can put the made in Italy tag in it if they finish it there like putting on the handles or something to that extent. Check out www.tarinatarantino.com all of her bags are handmade in downtown LA and for the price the quality is amazing. I have a few and wear them to death and they still look new and goregous. She also only makes 100 of each style so I never see other people with them, another plus.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 3:10PM

my mothers gucci bag metal fixture broke twice. So i took it in to the Beverly Hills Gucci store in sweats and they treated me with great service. However though Saks in BH is extremely rude they made comments about my ethnicity and if i could actually afford a dress. Haven't returned since, i go to Barneys instead

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posted by Jac

Aug 21, 2008 3:18PM

I agree 31. If I ever get treated poorly (and i do often, i needed to buy nice clothes for work but wasnt going to dress up to do so)I either tell the sales person off or ask to speak to a manager (or store manager). You're doing a disservice to yourself and the business if you let that behavior go unpunished. Good customer service DOES sell things and keep customers happy.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 3:25PM

It's all money-grubbing and it's gross. All of these companies have to continue to degrade their products--not just bags-- in order to make money and in many cases please shareholders. Buy Hermes or buy from a small design house that still cares about quality.

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posted by citygirllifestyle

Aug 21, 2008 3:26PM

I witnessed a similar issue with an LV salesperson at Saks in New York -- I was browsing and there was a whole commotion where someone had brought in an LV bag where the stitching had come out and the salesperson accused her of wrecking the bag. I had been the customer I would have written LV a letter of complaint.

As to your point about craftmanship -- yes I do agree that $1000+ purses are just no longer as well made. It's sad really.

I have been much happier lately with bags from local NY designers like Foley COrinna and Rachel Nasvik and Tano -- no, they are not status bags (yet), but at least they last and last.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 4:01PM

I shop net-a-porter just so I don't have to interact with evil salespeople. Bergdorf's are just horrendous, the younger girls are nicer but the old b*tches are totally evil.

The old b*tch at the marc jacobs handbag counter called me a 'working girl' when I said I was a lawyer.

um nice term fool!

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 4:11PM

#39, I don't think she meant "working girl" as an insult. She was probably just pointing out the obvious. Don't forget that not that long ago, it wasn't normal for a woman to work outside of the home.

I'm American but live in Western Europe. Outside of the cities, it is still more typical for a woman to be a stay-at-home mom. And, when her children are school-aged, she may get a job, but that is normally either volunteering at a hospital or have a few shifts in a shop (like your 'friend' at the MJ counter). I'm a bit of a novelty for my mother-in-law because I'm a "working girl" instead of a mom!

-#13

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 4:33PM

I got the same kind of attitude when I bought a murakami LV at the LV store in Beverly Hills and asked them to gift wrap it. The saleswoman actually looked offended when I asked her to put it in a box, and she rolled her eyes at the security guard standing by, who then gave me another look. You would think $1200 would at least get you a box....

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 4:46PM

The only good salespeople I've come across in NY are at Jeffrey. All of their stores - NY, ATL, and Bob Ellis Shoes in Charleston, SC (owned by Jeffrey) have fantastic sales people. When I lived in Charleston, the first time I stopped in Bob Ellis was on my way from the gym. Needless to say, I looked gross. Instead of a cold shoulder, I got such a warm greeting. In my year and a half spent in Charleston, every single pair of shoes I bought came from there, not to mention one Lanvin and two Balenciaga bags. I was not the least bit surprised after moving to NY and visiting to Jeffrey for the first time, I was treated just wonderfully (this time w/my 6 month old son on my hip!). Jeffrey has hands down the best customer service and it is so refreshing to be treated like a human being.....just b/c I have a baby does not mean I'm not going to buy anything!!

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 5:13PM

a "working girl" is a prostitute. if the old bitch was truly old, that's probably how she meant to use the term and she probably meant for it to be insulting.

that is truly incorrigible.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 5:26PM

Oh dear, I'm afraid you're all suckers...a handbag, any handbag, is not worth that amount of time, money or energy I'm afraid. Some of us actually have REAL lives to live...I don't know why women subject themselves to this kind of treatment in stores. Really now, what kind of idiot spends six-digits on a bag and gets treated like dirt in the process? (Not to mention these so-called couture bags are now made by underpaid and abused children in CHINA). If you don't know how to take your money and WALK, you probably deserve all the derision you get. I don't mean to be sexist, but this usually happens to women - do you think a man would let the idiots at Omega or Rolls Royce yell at him over a manufacturing defect? You can bet if they did, he would spend his money elsewhere. Ladies, it's time to get some gumption and stand up for yourself.

Do your research, save your money for the brands that protect manufacturing in Europe and stand by their products, and don't allow yourself to be swayed by trends and advertising. Only then will you be a truly happy, stylish customer.

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posted by bastylefilegirl

Aug 21, 2008 6:00PM

28 yeah I know it's real now but I had to call LV directly the fact that eluxury didn't call me back and address the concerns of a customer isn't something that makes me want to shop there again. Secondly I will never by a logo bag ever again ( I was young and dumb when I did it the first time) because the authenticity is always going to be question due to the fact that some fakes look so real and some real bags are clearly not as well made as they should be from the looks of this topic!

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posted by DivaDelux

Aug 21, 2008 6:57PM

On salespeople:

The Prada and YSL salespeople by Madison Ave. are amazing and wonderful. They gave me some of the best customer service ever. At Prada it was zero sales pressure as they genuinely encouraged my friend and me to try on as many dresses and tops we wanted. At YSL I was thinking about getting the Muse in purple ostrich. The salesgirl was totally sweet and patient. Even after I didn't end up getting the purse she wanted to try some jewelry on me just for fun.

I will never buy anything from the Chanel on 58th. When I walked in absolutely NO ONE acknowledged me. I had to get a security guard to open up the jewelry for me. While I was going through the earrings and rings a snotty sales woman stormed over and scolded "That's not his job. If you want to buy something, you come to me!" I was over it. I put down the Chanel, thanked the security guard, and stormed out.

On designer handbag quality:

I got my sister a Marc Jacobs handbag for graduation this year. Not even a month goes buy and the handle for the outside zipper breaks off. I was furious. How could a $1300 bag break in less than a month when she treats it like a newborn child? I bought it for her in LA and she took it to the Bleecker St. location in NY for repairs. They were apparently super nice and apologetic and the repair was free. If anyone is thinking about getting a Marc Jacobs handbag I would say go for it. Despite the zipper incident, the quality of their handbags is amazing and they come with a lifetime guarantee so you will never have to pay for repairs if you need them.

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posted by DivaDelux

Aug 21, 2008 7:11PM

@ guest #24

I used to work at Coach. Just bring in your damaged purse and they will send it out for repairs. You may have to pay $20 for shipping, but that's it.

While I’m not a big fan of Coach for strictly aesthetic reasons, their customer service and commitment to quality is amazing. They stand by their handbags 100% and just like Marc Jacobs have a lifetime guarantee on their bags.

FYI: The Coach signature jacquard is made in the same factory in Italy as the Gucci signature jacquard.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 7:33PM

I'm sorry, I realize I'm late on this thread but I have to say something re: "Salesgirls are so bitchy" meme that's happening around here.

Having worked in sales, I can tell you it's THE most unfulfilling job on the planet, and most of you are probably very nice and lovely people who treat your salespeople with the upmost respect but frankly you all would be in the minority.

I cannot tell you the number of times I have been cussed out, yelled at, lied to, had my intelligence questioned (and I have a college degree,) or just flat out disrespected by women who think they can treat me that way because they are spending a certain amount of money with me, only have my manager tell me that "the customer is always right." Deal with that everyday for couple of years (and that's just me, that's not counting the lifers)and see how much YOU like it.

Is this an excuse for rudeness and poor customer service? Of course not, they signed up and that's part of the job, obviously.

But for every ONE nice customer I got everyday or someone with a legitimate issue who I would take care of, I would have FIVE awful people who abused the return policy and treated me like crap in the process. And you best believe I was as nice to them as I could possibly be, but my soul died a little inside everytime I had to do it.

And #31 "They are JUST a shop assistant?" Seriously? These are people trying to make a living who sometimes don't make in a month the price of what one of those bags would cost. In the boutiques the pay is a bit better but I can tell you for a fact that in "high end" department stores (Saks and Neimans and Barneys included) many of those people are barely getting by. Not to mention the fact that when you do return something, yes, it comes directly out of their paycheck, which is like someone punching you in the face.

Again, not an excuse for being a bitch to a customer (because making your rent usually depends on your customer service skills) but I had to say something. It's a lot different on the other side of the cashwrap.

*Steps off of soapbox*

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 8:18PM

I have a similar problem with my muse!!! Within a month, the stitches in front were coming off and when I brought it back to the shop they apparently showed it to their "tailor" who I assumed just snipped it off.. grrrr

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posted by Charlotte

Aug 21, 2008 8:22PM

^I just got hired at Banana Republic, and I'm doing sales... that was definitely not what i wanted to hear :(

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posted by Frank

Aug 21, 2008 8:32PM

This is a top-down business model problem. Salespeople who don't stand to lose commission on a return have no dis-incentive to swap out a piece of damaged merchandise, however the salesperson is not generally given the authority to do so. Managers will remain behind the scenes (watching on the security cameras!) coaching the salespeople on these "we'll fix it" tactics. If things get ugly enough the manager will either come in and reiterate and the person will either give up or take it up the chain of command and at some point a powerful person will ride in on a white horse. The managers don't want to have to take the item back as a damage because it hurts their bottom line and negatively impacts their bonus. Even when such managers are forced to take the damage, they'll often re-introduce the damaged merchandise back into the inventory and hope to transfer it out and sell it to a less discerning customer. It's really a nasty element of the business.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 8:52PM

I bought a Chanel bag in an avacado pantent leather and it got a weird mark on the back from no where. I took it to chanel 4x before a manager actually looked into it and credited me for the price of the bag. That said they were super rude - but when they found out that other bags from that collection had the same problem they were nice - and i bought it at Bergdorf. That said, no matter where the bag was purchaed, the sales clerk should have looke dup the customer in the system and seen that she sold the bag like 3 days before. HER BAD. I would write a letter. You would be surprised what could happen as the luxury market is not doing well now.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 9:01PM

#48, well said. Working in retail can be awful. Your soul does die a little bit. And I'm sure in a high-end boutique where salespeople deal with very demanding clients, things can get downright nasty.

However, I've never understood the "looking down your nose" mentality of some boutiques. Yes, I know there are bad people out there looking to steal. I know there are customers who will try on clothes and leave them in piles on the floor and not buy a thing. But I think just about everyone deserves the freedom of being able to walk into a store, be it a department store or Chanel, without thinking about catty salesladies dismissing them because they look like they don't earn enough or won't buy something. Like a few commenters referenced, we can see that it is often the lady not dressed to the nines that will buy a significant amount of clothing.

I have to say that although I do not make a lot of money and it is probably more or less evident to a discerning eye, when I walked into the Chanel store on Rue Cambon, I received nothing but first class attention and service. From the security guard who greeted me with a brilliant smile and escorted me through the store to the scarves (while other salespeople also smiled and acknowledged me) to the beautiful Claudia who was so patient and kind to a little nobody like me in such a beautiful store, it really made all the difference in my experience. My scarf was wrapped with the utmost care in a beautiful box with Chanel ribbon and placed in a cute little bag. I was on cloud nine not just because I was in the most fantastic Chanel store in the world, but because it lived up to every expectation I had of what a Chanel (or any designer) experience should be like. Why can't it always be like this? Why must I be ashamed just because I can't afford a $10,000 dress? That is perhaps where many salespeople fall short. A little effort and respect goes a very, very long way.

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 10:11PM

Miu Miu Allumino Bow Satchel = Total Friggin Nightmare!!!!!!!!

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posted by guest

Aug 21, 2008 10:20PM

hah, in the past two days the crystal embellishment on my 800 dollar lanvin flats just fell off...after 15 days of purchase. and my one-month-old marc jacobs (collection!!) flats just snapped in half.

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posted by Eli

Aug 21, 2008 11:39PM

This is probably a case of the commission lost. Which if it was a different salesgirl, she should have been nicer because she probably picked up the old commission from the return.

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posted by guest

Aug 22, 2008 12:34AM

great timing, reading this post! I'm in NYC bringing my daughter to college. as a 'going away' gift i wanted to buy her the LV speedy she had been saving for months to buy. went to the soho store on greene today and we were completely ignored from the doorman - all the way through the store and down the stairs. a nasty salesperson was very determined to ignore us but my daughter asked to see the bag. the woman, who was unwrapping items from plastic wrap, didn't even look up but said 'this has to be done first'. what?! another salesperson happened to walk by and was wonderful - ben. after we left my daughter realized she’d left her phone on the counter and called right away. the LV woman on the phone described the phone down to color of the charm. so we trekked all the way back.

and there was ms nasty again.
she said 'i have no idea what you're talking about. i'm the only woman here'. another salesperson said 'what about [can't remember her name]? very nasty: 'she's sewing, she's not supposed to answer the phone. go upstairs and take care of this'.

the upshot - 20 minutes later, umm yeah, the woman sewing had it waiting for my daughter to come get it.
and, we went back to our hotel and bought one from fashionphile.com instead.


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posted by astralgirl02

Aug 22, 2008 1:17AM

I just bought a Dunlin bag from the lovely folks at Opening Ceremony, and the hardware just snapped off on both sides. So disappointing... going to email them now and see if they can replace or repair it. Wish me luck!


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posted by guest

Aug 22, 2008 1:35AM

to guest at 18
omfg don't get me started at the people at chanel here in beverly hillsl! well not all but some
like one time i went to buy those black leather lambskin gloves from the ss08 collection and the guy was being a total bitch saying they weren't carrying it and didn't even bother looking for it. he just told me to go to saks down the street and that they might have it. I even called the boutique like 4 days ago before i went and the lady was so nice and even said they had it and even knew which ones i was talking about. ugh.

oh the employees at marc by marc are sooooo nice! sweetest people ever! they make shopping there such a great experience

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posted by guest

Aug 22, 2008 2:04AM

I've never understood why sales girls get snooty either. I can see how they'd get pissy about returns/exchanges because they're losing commission or they're going to catch sh*t from their managers (not that it's an excuse to be rude), but being snooty can't be helping their sales, so why??

I caught a slight glimpse into this enigma when my friend started working at a high end store. Sure she had an employee discount, but let's be realistic - even with half off, $10 an hour doesn't go very far. Yet she would go on crazy extravagant shopping sprees, buying loads of shoes and floor-length gowns that she'd never have a chance to wear except in front of her own bathroom mirror.

Then the sprees began extending to other store, stores where she didn't have any discount at all. She eventually got fed up and quit her job, but to this day she still doesn't make that much money and still spends herself into trouble.

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posted by guest

Aug 22, 2008 2:16AM

So here is my theory - many girls get into high end retail sales because they crave a taste of luxury, an "in" to a world they could otherwise never be a part of. For my friend, mingling day in and day out with the beautiful people was a huge boost to her self esteem. She began to associate having money and thus, having expensive clothes, with her own self-worth.

Her tells herself, "I deserve these expensive things." She likes to tell people, "I can't help it if I have expensive tastes," because she associates having money with having status and class, and assumes others do as well. In her mind, she began to think of herself and her snooty customers as birds of a feather. She even developed a weird accent and affect to her voice and began using weird hand gestures.

Needless to say, we're not close friends anymore. But through her, I saw how snooty sales girls get that way. So the next time some salesgirl or saleswoman gives you attitude, stop and realize that they're probably delusional, sad little people who like to imagine that they're "somebody" just because they hawk expensive handbags.

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posted by alisa

Aug 22, 2008 9:36AM

my chloe ava bag is really beautiful but it hasnt held up well at all. the leather shows distress after like every use. and not in a good way..

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posted by guest

Aug 22, 2008 9:41AM

I always thought - on a purely theoretical level as I will never be even close to rich - that the snottiness is part of the appeal. A mark of distinction to the plebs that you can buy into. Where is the fun if they are friendly to everybody?

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posted by guest

Aug 22, 2008 10:23AM

MY brother a few years ago got me a christian dior saddle bag, and the strap broke after barely using it.

I personally have never had a problem at Louis Vuitton, and i bought a few things from there at the Americana. My best experience is when i bought my speedy thought in Paris, best experience in my life not pushy at all

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posted by guest

Aug 22, 2008 12:51PM

i am very late but re: #57 i had the same thing happen to me at the LV soho store and this was '99

my treatment in the Paris stores 2 years later was superb.

but this was back when i actually liked LV

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posted by guest

Aug 22, 2008 7:04PM

designer bags have reached ridiculous prices.....amazed to hear these stories---> its all news to me!!

i have only ever bought vintage designer bags----> both from 1970's and still going strong....a piece of history that i am proud to own because it now seems that retail ethics have desroyed traditions of quality......

no.29----> have heard from many people that louboutins are THE most uncomfortable shoes....my mother tried a pair on and was in pain after 2 steps!!

i hope the fashion industry pulls up its socks....cough.... :(

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posted by guest

Aug 23, 2008 12:03AM

#59- I agree, the people at the Marc by Marc Jacobs store on Melrose are so nice. I specifically went in to buy a tote bag from their special items line that cost like $12 and I was nervous they might give me attitude for not spending alot. Not to mention that my mom had to use the bathroom and I thought they might be rude about it since we obviously weren't going to be spending loads of money but the girl was super nice about it.

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posted by guest

Aug 23, 2008 2:38PM

my mom gave me an LV bag which she had hardly used in the past year, and after a few days, i noticed that the underside of the handles had rubbed off a little. oh well.

i have no problem spending a lot on clothing or shoes, but it's silly to believe that you're buying quality when it comes to these big name logo companies. $1100 for henry beguelin is a lot better than $1100 for LV.

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posted by guest

Aug 26, 2008 11:45AM

yeaaa, my prada bag is currently ripping, although it has had 3 years of wear, no dry cleaner/tailor can fix, so i have to take it to a shoemaker???

I stick to BCBG now, they have some pretty nice two toned ones.

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posted by guest

Aug 27, 2008 4:26PM

All my bags and shoes are from Zara and Massimo Dutti (from the same company as Zara), even though I have friends that cannot stand Zara shoes on they're feet. I've never had any problem with them. I still wear today shoes and bags I bought 2 years ago (and I've worn them a lot, I promise). Prada bags are made in Prato, outside Florence, by illegal chinese people (this was in "Report", that tv program from the italian tv), and I have a friend that works in the MiuMiu store that says there are some items they try not to sell because they're ashamed of the quality and know the custumer will go back a couple of days later regretting having bought it.
I cannot understand this, also because a lot of people buy these products just for the name of the brand. It's incredible.

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posted by loveroffashion

Aug 27, 2008 9:04PM

I experienced this with my YSL mombasa bag.
The straps on the side came unglued. I was tempted to take it back to the boutique but I decided to re-glue it myself...

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posted by guest

Sep 02, 2008 1:02AM

Read "How Luxury Lost its Luster"

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posted by Lynda Foster

Sep 12, 2008 8:47AM

When I pay big dollars for ANYTHING I expect perfection. It is unacceptable,and should be replaced with a new item. Also unacceptable is someone who brings an item back after it is old and beat up, and expects the same service. And that goes on all the time.
Lynda Foster
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Fashion agent

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posted by guest

Sep 20, 2008 10:59PM

I used to buy Coach, but gave up on them because their goods are so shoddy now. I bought a $400 logo carryall bag from their Soho store and had a similar story to this YSL one - I took it home, took it out of the shopping bag and the leather trim promptly snapped because it was poor quality. The Rockefeller Center store took it back, but grudgingly and tried to get me to exchange for something else, but I can do without it. I bought a Triple 5 Soul corduroy bag for $89 that I love and that gets me loads of compliments.

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posted by guest

Sep 20, 2008 11:01PM

This stuff is made in sweatshops - we should not be surprised if the quality is poor - the people making it certainly are. Maybe it's what we deserve for not caring about the suffering of those who make the luxury items we crave.

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