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Designer Price Bubble: Hit Reset

the best example we can think of for the shoe price bubble by manolo blahnik.jpgObviously, the recession is on everybody’s minds, and obviously, most talk here at the Fashionista offices usually turn to shoes. So here’s a thought we had this afternoon:

If one good thing comes out of this economic crisis, it could be the deafening pop of the what we’re calling the Shoe Price Bubble. Picture it:

Constant sales lead to constantly lowering prices. Constantly lowering prices could lead to stores beginning with more reasonable prices rather than suffering through crawling profits and an embarrassing stream of sales. Price adjustments could lead to stores pricing strategically, in order to get the most customers, which could ultimately lead to the general price of what we all know are stratospherically over-priced goods plummeting back down to a normal range of say, $400 for designer shoes, rather than $1,000+.

Because as it is right now, we’re living in a world where hundreds of extra dollars can be slapped onto something as some kind of name-association fee. But if brands want to survive, it’s getting to a point where everybody has to throw their hands up and just admit they’re marking things (and by “things,” we’re specifically pointing towards shoes, bags and denim) up because they can, and because nothing’s stopped then.

Until now. Do you think prices could start much lower for this Spring’s wares? Or could store’s conservative ordering keep the supply - and prices - as high as they’ve been?

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posted by guest

Nov 24, 2008 12:54PM

As much as I love a bargain, in the long run, reducing list prices is not the best option for retailers and luxury good firms. Luxury brands cannot afford to reduce their list prices as it will destroy brand equity. Retailers will face smaller, if any, margins. Also, it is doubtful that prices will be much lower this spring, particularly on European goods, as suggested retail prices were set when the US dollar was weaker against the Euro.

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posted by guest

Nov 24, 2008 2:38PM

I think that you will just see less Luxury goods (ie: stores will do a smaller buy and items will be high n demand). I know that stores like Barneys are already hurting, i was there on Sunday at the 18th street coop and NO ONE was in there shopping. Apparently they too will be slashing prices the day after thanksgiving....

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posted by purly

Nov 24, 2008 2:50PM

Over the past few years prices have more than doubled to keep up with inflation, so it's not like having a sale has any real effect except to make us feel better.

I have a feeling certain brands would rather go out of business or slow production and close stores than "cheapen the name"

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posted by guest

Nov 24, 2008 3:15PM

I completely agree with the article and I think that spending a grand on shoes just because of branding is insane.

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posted by guest

Nov 24, 2008 3:18PM

I agree with purly... the higher profile names won't risk tarnishing their image with 'bargain pricing'. I think they believe that those who are loyal to them can afford their wares regardless of a troubled economy.

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posted by guest

Nov 24, 2008 3:41PM

just a few years ago louboutins were an average of $400...now, you are lucky if you can get them for that price on sale. with the stronger dollar and the weaker economy, why can't they go back to $400 again? the dollar is now pretty much the same against the euro as it was about 5 years ago...bring back the lower prices!

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posted by AmandaMichele

Nov 24, 2008 3:59PM

The dollar to euro ratio is not an indication of the strength of either currency. The weak American economy has started to affect the global economy and now there is a global inflation issue. Inflation would make prices rise, not fall. Picture those editorial cartoons from the Depression era when the dollar was worthless and people would bring bags full of cash just to get bread and milk. Now apply that to a trip to Barneys for a pair of expensive shoes. Prices will fall when there is a shift in the economy and the middle class is spending money again.

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posted by ginni27

Nov 24, 2008 4:23PM

I think the high prices will keep these luxury brands with a certain exclusivity. I.e. they are STILL luxury items and those who 'should' be wearing them still can afford a 1000 pair!

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posted by guest

Nov 25, 2008 4:39AM

I think its beyond ridiculous to spend $1,000 on a pair of designer shoes which in a year or two people in the "fashion know" will see that they are from last year's collection and therefore have lost some of their fabulosity

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posted by guest

Nov 25, 2008 9:14AM

First of all, constant sales wouldn't be an incentive for retailers to lower their prices -- it would be an incentive to raise them. Which is why shoe prices are the way they are in the first place.

The luxury market is a weird one, though. You can actually make a product seem ten times more desirable by raising the price on it.

Mid-range labels might lower their prices for spring (and maybe the quality of their materials, etc. at the same time) but the Roger Viviers are probably gonna stay put. That's my guess.

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posted by fauvism3

Nov 25, 2008 9:46AM

#7...the fear is of DEFLATION, not inflation. Inflation is bad in a different way, but that is when prices go up, which has been happening over the past few years, on everything from stuff in the consumer price index (milk, bread, essentials) to luxury goods. Demand for essentials remained the same, but a global food shortage, rising gas prices, etc but a strain on resources and so those prices went up.

NOW, no one is spending, and people are cutting back on essentials themselves, so there is deflation as demand decreases and prices fall to get people to buy things. Honestly, you DON'T want deflation to happen, even if it means you can buy cheaper Loubs. There is a deflationary spiral once deflation occurs, and it's insanely hard to get out of.

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posted by AmandaMichele

Nov 25, 2008 10:38AM

Deflation is not a risk because of the government intervention. They are printing and distributing so much that the dollar is going to become less and less valuable. It isn't a question, it never was, that the American dollar will get very weak before the economy gets better. Weak currency leads to inflation. You are right that supply and demand is inextrincably linked to pricing, but currency values have a more immediate impact.

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posted by guest

Nov 25, 2008 11:40AM

#12 I wouldn't be so sure and say that the dollar value has weaken as a matter of fact the dollar value against the euro has increased tremendously over the past few months. Just one year ago the euro value was almost double to the dollar now the dollar is almost equal to the euro.

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posted by fauvism3

Nov 25, 2008 12:10PM

Inflation doesn't create demand though, but jobs do. That's why a deflationary spiral, in which consumers don't spend, prices drop, and no one can afford to hire--would be deadly and self-perpetuating.

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posted by guest

Nov 27, 2008 3:03PM

i think the whole economic talk here to be kind of funny- it sounds like some people have read a couple articles and then considered themselves experts...

but back to the original post- i think it's totally crazy how shoe prices have gone crazy. it's gotten to the point where even the knockoffs feel justified in charging 100-200 dollars!

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