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The Compliment and the Complimenter

a compliment from carine and we would DIE.jpgThere’s a battle brewing in the Fashionista office - is it normal, as in do you, receive compliments differently based on who’s dished them?

For example, if it’s Fashion Week and I’m surrounded by ridiculously well-dressed editors and buyers and one of them takes a moment to acknowledge something I’m wearing, it means a lot.

But someone else in our office was recently regaled with a shower of compliments in regard to his style by someone who makes Mary-Kate circa 2004 look polished. While he wanted to mean his “Thank you” with all his heart, he couldn’t help but take a second, rather confused look at his J.Crew meets Trovata outfit.

So, is a compliment a compliment no matter what? Or does its relevance change based on who’s doing the complimenting?

And before you jump to say this is ridiculous or snobby, think about something particular to you (if you don’t work in fashion). If you’re a writer, you’d take comments from your favorite author or journalist to heart more than one from the guy you’re dating who can’t take the time to spell out “your” over g-chat; If you’re an artist, you’re going to pay a lot more attention to what a curator or gallery owner says than your little sister, right?

And if someone whom you don’t necessarily want to love your style does, will you actually go so far as to change it?

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 12:45PM

I'd never change because someone else likes what I did/do/wear but I agree on the level of appreciation of a compliment based on who said it.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 12:46PM

Sure there's a difference if it comes from someone whom you admire. But a compliment is a compliment, and should be received with a smile and "thank you."

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 12:48PM

Although this story holds some truth, this is completely irrelevant and not something I want to read about on fashionista. This really isn't an open forum. Stay focused fashionista.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 12:55PM

If someone is kind enough to compliment you, you ought to have the good grace to accept it without mentally criticizing their outfit. What horrible, horrible manners.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 12:57PM

I agree. But it sounds like someone at fashionista maybe a little insecure.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:02PM

I wouldn't discount a compliment from a person just because of their personal style. However, if someone with truly amazing style complimented me, I would definitely value their compliment more!

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posted by AmandaMichele

Feb 03, 2009 1:03PM

Oh number 4 get off your Emily Post high horse because that is utter rubbish. A compliment from someone you respect and whose opinion you admire definitely bears more weight than compliments from, say an employee or a salesperson who is just doling out compliments because they want to make a good impression.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:04PM

Honestly who cares fashionista. If you or someone you know is so concerned about fishing for compliments and or gaining the approval of your fellow peers then you may want to rethink your position at fashionista or any other fashion related sector. That's part of what we call a fashion victim and this industry doesn't tolerate nor do we care about people that are that needy and self absorbed.

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posted by andremichael

Feb 03, 2009 1:06PM

if someone who has less-than-perfect style compliments yours, then it's probably out of pure admiration and/or aspiration. which doesn't mean that you should change your own style at all.

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posted by belldubois

Feb 03, 2009 1:11PM

I understand about being graceful when you are given a compliment, but this is a very interesting post and very honest. It makes me question if our clothes attract the attention we want, for example some dress for themselves or to be respected in a certain way and when the complimenter is not someone we share a likeness to, what feelings then arise within us. I think that question is what's key in the post.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:12PM

People obviously receive compliments better from people they respect or admire, but to change your own personal style and taste on the sole basis that someone "irrelevant" compliments you is more of an indicator of insecurity. Then again, the fashion industry attracts numerous amounts of insecure people that constantly need to be told how fabulous they are.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:17PM

When you get dressed, you dress yourself to look a certain way. Maybe you get dressed depending on your mood, but you are using clothing to project something about yourself to people. So, when someone who you think has terrible taste compliments you, I think it can actually be insulting, or at least make you second guess the way you put yourself together. However, I also think that maybe someone who you think doesn't have the same taste as you could also appreciate other styles and so in that regard it could still be appreciated

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:19PM

"but I guess that's what this multi billion dloaar industry is all about - inner beauty"

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:19PM

I used to work for a woman who had a creepy single-white-female obsession with my clothes. This is creepy no matter what, but she was my boss and was a good 30 years older. But she started adopting certain aspects of my style -- the big scarves I wore around the office to stay warm, the worn brown leather boots with black shifts, the long beaded necklaces, etc. It was a young look, and it was unlike what most people in my fairly straight-laced office wore.

She was also very complimentary of the stuff I wore. Normally, your boss complimenting your style would be a positive - this was disturbing. She didn't seem to get that she'd crossed a line. I definitely altered my style because of this. A couple times other people even noted that she and I "dressed alike". Since she'd been wearing twin sets and pearls when I arrived, I'm pretty sure this wasn't an accident.

There are compliments, there are back-handed compliments, and then there are creepy wanna-bes. Context definitely matters.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:24PM

Narcissists! Get over yourselves, Fashionista. I've seen you out and your style is tres bland. Who cares what people say about it? They probably have nothing else to say to you and are just trying to make inane conversation.

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posted by Belle de Jour

Feb 03, 2009 1:30PM

LOL @ 15.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:30PM

Maybe we should call it "narcissista"

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:31PM

I take the compliment regardless, I mean why not? Also, I've been known to compliment someone with a completely different style than me before and I certainly hope they would never think "omg, my 'look' is being off!". Perhaps this haggard-Mary-Kate-2004 (which I kinda love ps) was just appreciating a different aesthetic.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:32PM

While I understand what your saying about how it depends on who your recieving the compliment from I think that it shouldnt matter. Everyones style is different and Ive given other women compliments on their outfits that I thought were nice but it was something I would never be caught dead in. Strictly because its just not my style but its theirs and they rocked it too! This is fashion...if we were to all dress the same this industry wouldnt be.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:32PM

Oops, I'm guest 18, the quote was suppose to be something more along the lines of "omg, my 'look' is being taken wrong/off"

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posted by Natalie Hormilla

Feb 03, 2009 1:40PM

hi guest #15! that's incredible! that must have been during some alternate dream world episode where britt and i visited you in columbus, ohio, a place we've both never visited! you must have fashion ESP or something.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:41PM

hm. IP address lurkingggg...

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:46PM

yeah, Fashionista obviously does care about ANYONE'S opinions if they're looking up IP addresses. HILARIOUS and IRONIC.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:48PM

stop blaming fashionista for posting something you all know you were thinking at one point or another..

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:52PM

Also ironic since I, #15, am really in NYC. The company I freelance for is based in Columbus, Ohio so I guess everything goes through their server? Yeah, I know, you'll say "nice try." But really, I've been to your parties in the east village and have never been so underwhelmed. "Edgy bourgeois" -- it's been done, dolls.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:53PM

i think getting a compliment from someone is amazing, if it's from someone who's in a higher ranking than you, it makes you feel even better. it's always easier to find someone's flaws, so if someone takes out the time to say something nice appretiate it no matter who they may be. xo

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:54PM

#26, sounds like YOU'RE in Ohio.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:55PM

#26, sounds like YOU'RE in Ohio.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:55PM

Well, kind of a dull post; I don't spend that much time analyzing compliments. Is this some sort of fashion variant of the "He's Just Not That Into You?" schtick? The theme of completely overanalyzing something that doesn't warrant it?

Also, Natalie -- I'm not a regular poster here, and not trying to be rude, but given that you run a blog and I'm a stickler for grammar... instead of saying "a place we've both never," you should probably say "a place neither of us..."

Carry on, carry on.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 1:56PM

Sorry, meant #29 sounds like she's in Ohio.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 2:05PM

lol #25

#30 -- do people in Ohio have better grammar or something? What's up with every poster suddenly being called out as sounding like she's in Ohio? Get over it.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 2:11PM

15 that is so not how ip addresses work. you're busted. get over it.

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posted by Britt Aboutaleb

Feb 03, 2009 2:11PM

wait! what fashionista party and why weren't natalie & i invited?

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posted by hadaly

Feb 03, 2009 2:12PM

Reading this, the first thing that sprung to mind was when I was recently on a very crowded subway next to a woman wearing an unusual and gorgeous coat. I'm usually uncomfortable complimenting strangers, but I know I appreciate it when I get compliments and I was really impressed with her coat, so I told her it was lovely. After doing so, I became immediately self-conscious about my own much more practical than fashionable coat and wondered if this would de-value the comment in her mind.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 2:24PM

#32, actually that is how ip addresses work. One company i work for has a server in VA, and my ip reads as such.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 2:37PM

What does it matther that the commenter is not dress fashionforward. Just because they dont dress nice doesnt mean they dont have taste. Taste is in the head Fasion is on the body. And you cant see trough peoples heads. A comment is a comment.

And before someone says something about my spelling no Im not from Ohio. You can check my IP Im actually from Holland !

www.dreamlovely-anne.blogspot.com

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 2:42PM

15, who the hell says "tres" anymore.. someones been reading too much plum sykes and actually thinks people talk that way

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 2:53PM

I like that somehow, in this comment section, being from Ohio and having poor grammar have somehow become synonomous.

Since when did Natalie and Britt start posting replies in defense of themselves? I only read this blog every once in a while, but I seldom see them chiming in with a defense reply. Not that I care either way, it's just interesting. Makes me think this issue bothered them more than usual?

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 2:56PM

I love it when the comments get all catty like this and fashionista starts getting defensive...

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 3:01PM

Slow news day, Fashionista? I feel like we've heard a variation on this question before, too. We get it, you are mortified to receive compliments from slobs and Walmart shoppers. Obviously it's wonderful to get a compliment from someone you admire, but a compliment from someone you don't is nice too. Is this topic ("topic" defined loosely, obvs) really blogworthy?

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 3:16PM

#40 -- best comment of this entire post...

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 3:57PM

loooool. you all entertained me on my lunch break!

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 4:44PM

A COMPLIMENT IS A COMPLIMENT. NO MATTER WHO SAYS IT. IT'S THE FACT THAT SOMEONE LIKES SOMETHING OF YOURS AND TOOK THE TIME TO TELL YOU. SO YOU SHOULD BE APPRECIATIVE NO MATTER WHAT.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 5:19PM

There are times when you shouldn't necessarily write down all those little thoughts that go on in your head....

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posted by arue

Feb 03, 2009 6:13PM

I used to dress like i was right out of a JCrew catalouge. Then when guys in my school got tired of the hip hop movement and started dressing dandy,
i started wearing Doc martens and acid wash jeans now the girls in my school think that this look is cool so i guess it's time to wear it all in one look.

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posted by Mahalia

Feb 03, 2009 6:16PM

I'd say that, based on this post, that the anonymous Fashionista office-person had a very narrow point of view and was thus sort of boring. Because people have many different viewpoints and can like your look/art/cat/whatever for myriad different reasons, how can you say a compliment is valid or not? It would be more fun and interesting to ask, "what do you like about it?" and learn something.

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posted by austinsamuel

Feb 03, 2009 7:34PM

In a way I think if someone who looks like shit compliments you, it just means that they aspire to replicate your style..
what i have found from working in a high end boutique is that someone's style is truly reflected not in what they're wearing but by the pieces they try on...
After all, Nicola Formichetti often is seen in just a plain t-shirt, but he's arguably the best stylist in the world

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 7:35PM

I like Mahalia's answer.

The only way I would change my style because "someone whom you don’t necessarily want to love your style does" would be if I were, say, a rebellious teenager deliberately assuming a style I didn't particularly care about for the sole purpose of annoying my parents. Or in a desperate attempt to prove to society how "unique" and "different" I was by trying to wear something that other people wouldn't like. Because most people can appreciate someone else's style even when it diverges dramatically from their own.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 8:12PM

I immediately understood what this post was getting at and agree that a compliment from the best dressed girl at a party goes further than one from my sweat pant wearing aunt. It doesn't mean I don't appreciate them both, but one holds a little more weight. The best comparison I can make is that after contributing to a discussion in class, a "good job" from the professor means more than one from a classmate. The professor is simply more knowledgeable on the subject.

And for the last time, if you don't like what's happening on this blog, please stop mucking it up with irrelevant and mean comments. If you disagree with a post, say so and explain why. If you think it's the worst thing you've ever read, do yourself and the rest of us a favor and STOP.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 8:58PM

OMG I was talking about this with my guy a few weeks ago then again with a friend and must agree that the compliment depends on the complimenter. Not saying I don't attempt to graciously accept, I just take it with a grain of sand if someone compliments me on my outfit and they have no style. A better example would be someone saying you're smart and you know they aren't very bright themselves.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 10:24PM

I have always said that!-Compliments about being well dressed mean more coming from another put togerther person! Like wise I roll my eyes when ppl don't get my style, like I care what they think,when they couldn't they have no concept of fashion.

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 11:07PM

a compliment is a compliment give me a break it is snobbish

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posted by guest

Feb 03, 2009 11:19PM

What the people who are defending this post aren't getting is that the post didn't simply state that a compliment from a more important person is more meaningful, but that they feel practically OFFENDED when the person complimenting them is not up to their standards, which is completely retarded and ridiculous. God forbid a commoner from Ohio "gets" your oh-so complicated and sophisticated style that you spent hours on and only want other pretentious assholes to appreciate.

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posted by etoilee8

Feb 03, 2009 11:21PM

In my world, a compliment is a compliment regardless of who it's coming from. Of course if someone with excellent style compliments me, I beam. But if someone with style different than mine, compliments me, I also beam. . . because that is what's so awesome about fashion. . . it inspires!

I look at it this way. I have always had an eye for fashion but in high school, on my babysitting dollar and the money my parents rarely threw into my wardrobe. . .I usually looked a hot mess. (Let's face it. . . sometimes you can only do so much with Old Navy, TJ Maxx and the UO sales rack). But that didn't mean I loved fashion any less. . . it just meant I still needed to find my own style, own it (and make the cash to buy the things that are amazing). Now I buy what I like, I love my style and if someone who's younger than me, or doesn't have the same style as me, compliments me, I take it as the ultimate compliment. I wanted to grow up and be the girl I am now, but I had much inspiration on the way. Maybe I'll inspire someone else in the same way :)

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posted by guest

Feb 04, 2009 12:41AM

One of my newyears resolutions was to compliment people's outfits more because I would be honored to get a compliment from myself. Haha.

I totally agree that this is a valid topic. But i think natalie and Britt are totally pathetic for replying to #15, at least in the manner that they did.

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posted by Donald

Feb 04, 2009 9:24AM

I think it totally depends on how fragile the compliment receiver's ego is.

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posted by ginni27

Feb 04, 2009 1:40PM

Umm- I definitely thinks the compliment has a LOT more weight when someone that actually has taste says it. ie- I'm surrounded by polyester pants and tennis shoes at work. When I receive a compliment, I take it in stride. Just because I actually take a second to assess myself, doesn't mean that I'm perpetually 'wowing' everyone. But if KATE said something to me, I'd die- then I'd tell everyone I know.

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posted by guest

Feb 04, 2009 4:39PM

definitely, compliments' truth/importance depend on the complimenter. im in high school, n like the only person into fashion at an all-girl school, so i get complimented on everything i wear everyday of my life. its not like i dont know that my stuff is cool, its called self-awareness. so no, none of my classmates compliment matter to me. ik i look great.

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posted by guest

Feb 04, 2009 4:41PM

fashion and taste are totally related. chances are, if you have good taste, you'll dress well, even if you dont keep up with the"trends", in and out or whatever, you'll have style.

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posted by guest

Feb 05, 2009 11:22AM

this is almost as bad as reading the comments on youtube.com

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posted by guest

Feb 05, 2009 4:24PM

Britt and Natalie: You're supposed to be at least SORT OF professionals. Why on Earth would you respond to #15 in such a catty way?

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posted by guest

Feb 05, 2009 5:26PM

I don't think there is anything snobby about appreciating compliments more from certain people than others.

If you wrote a novel and one of your favorite authors complimented you on it, you'd be estatic.
If an artist that you respect told you they liked your work, you would have a huge burst of confidence.

There's nothing wrong with getting more excited about a compliment from someone you respect( whether it be style-wise, or anything else), than someone random.

This doesn't mean you shouldn't graciously accept the compliment, but, really, you can't help the way you feel!

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posted by karenx

Feb 05, 2009 10:07PM

I love all compliments, but sure, some mean more than others.

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posted by guest

Feb 05, 2009 10:08PM

keep making posts like these Fashionista, honestly- the comments are hilarous to read!

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posted by DC Fashion Gal

Feb 11, 2009 10:07AM

Getting a compliment from anyone is always nice but I agree that if it comes from a woman (a compliment from certain men is just creepy) whose style I find to be very fashionable, it means a lot more to me. Hope you don't mind but I added a link to your fantastic blog on my blog! Your blog is very inspiring!

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posted by guest

Feb 12, 2009 10:07PM

LOL @ comment # 60... yes, yes it is. :P

I believe some people seem to have forgotten to read the last two paragraphs of this entry... she specifically said "before you jump to say this is ridiculously or snobby." Writer - you need to put the disclaimer in the FIRST paragraph. They jump fast!

Anyhow, yes, complements from different people impress all of us differently, and that is normal; but being aware of it, and double-checking our motives in response to these things, is always a good idea. Not one everyone here should be so quick to self-righteously attack.

There are legit reasons to value a complement of a certain sort above another in any particular area where expertise can be roughly "ranked" - whether it be a field of academia, a style of writing (say, sonnets) or, in some ways, creative expression.

A complement on a research paper from a professor/academic expert makes me feel accomplished; one from my amused little brother may worry me. On the other hand, a comment on my personal character from my brother may mean more than that from the professor.

I think this is the point here...

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