posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 12:53PM

I would rather they were all fake tanning than real tanning. So fake 'n bake away, I say!

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:22PM

I dont use fake tan but have nothing against other people using it. I guess it just makes some people feel more confident sort of like wearing makeup. And sometimes makeup goes horribly wrong too.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:37PM

You failed to distinguish the difference between tanning beds and fake tans.

posted by darcykins

Mar 31, 2009 1:41PM

i agree with guest 4 and think there is a big difference; that said i would'nt do either.
i'm pale and i like being pale.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:44PM

whats wrong with getting a fake tan??
i've done it before and i get lots of compliments and no, they arent shady passive aggressive compliments either.
my fake tans actually look good and bronzy brown on me. real.
also, they make the colors of whatever you're wearing POP along with making your teeth and eyes whiter.
i do mine with the bulbs, not with the sprays or the lotions. i think they tend to smell funny and hard to achieve a flawless blend to your skin and look a bit on the orange side.
so i say if you must, tan with the bulbs and not the cans/bottles.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:44PM

Being pale isn't beautiful to everyone... I'm someone who is olive skin and I don't like not being tan, so living in NYC, fake tanning while I'm not on vacation is all I can get... then thats what I'm doing. But don't get me wrong, everything in moderation... looking orange is not beautiful to anyone!

Basically for some people its as aspect of beauty, and its another one of those things we know is bad for us, but don't really care. (if we thought every time we where heels we have the possibility of breaking our ankles, it wouldn't matter because we would never give them up)

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:47PM

As an extremely fair skinned redhead, I can say that some people are not as benevolent as you in accepting the variety of skin tones present in the world. Plenty of people think fair skin looks sallow and unhealthy, plenty of people have "ew-ed" at my skin. I continue to choose not to use self tanning products (because they do look ridiculous), and it would honestly make no difference if I spent hours in a tanning bed because my skin does not ever approach anything near brown. You act like it's so easy to just live outside of the cultural norm or the standard of beauty, but it's more of a struggle than you think to resist these products.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:52PM

Getting your tan from blubs is like asking for skin cancer...i've worked at a few tanning salons and learned that all the bs about its better than outdoors is just that...bs. Therefore I am all for a tan from a bottle, spray etc.-they can look really natural unless you go overboard.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:54PM

A lot of people fake-bake before they go on vacation. Hell, I'm pale and freckled (not nearly as freckly as Lindsay though, heh) and I'm totally going to spray tan before a vacation in the Virgin Islands next month. Nothing major, just a bit of color. It helps paler folks to acclimate a bit to the surroundings and tropical-wear.

Not all fake tans are crusty and obvious as you indicate -- the trick is not to go overboard, especially if your natural tone is lighter than olive. I might even try Lindsay's product because it's al ~botanical~ and sh*t.

"so if it never looks real, seldom looks good, and pretty much always looks cheap"

I hate to add to the endless chorus of complainers around here as of late, but seriously, why you gotta be like that? It CAN look real, OFTEN can look good -- and I'm not even touching the "cheap" comment. Can't you find a way to be a bit cheeky without sounding like Judgey McCriticism from Bitchytown?

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:58PM

Agreed, number 4. This post does not differentiate between a tanning bed fake tan and self tanners, and it needs to.
What is wrong with a little tan from a tinted mositurizer type tanning lotion? That is what my friends and I all use, and it works. It doesn't streak or look overly fake. I say overly becaue it is a tan so can be noticeable, but what is the problem with that? It allows you to not have to wear makeup, slims your legs and covers cellulite, makes certain colors more wearable, etc. Why the hate??

posted by Natalie Hormilla

Mar 31, 2009 2:00PM

guest #4, i think they're both in the same category. while they don't look alike, neither look real/appealing. and guest #8, not to sound like a cheesy women's magazine, but i bet your pale skin is gorgeous! especially with red hair, i love that. i think natural is almost always the way to go.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 2:02PM

ugh, those tanning lotions have the most disgusting smell! i don't think the people that use them realize it though.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 2:12PM

Love my Clarins - the lotions opened up a whole new summer wardrobe for me. My legs went from Casper to an acceptable shade of pale. I have found that if you have a red/blue skin tone the lotions work wonders for balancing it out.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 2:15PM

Natalie, because you do have young readers, I think you should note that while both are fake and cheesy, only one gives you skin cancer, ages your skins, etc. If you notice, a lot of comments don't recognize this fact. So, there is a judgment call to be made here.

I'm also a super pale redhead by the way, #8. And I just put on some deep lipstick to play up contrast and smile at the cheap girls who think I look sallow.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 2:20PM

they do smell bad. i use them. i put them on at night, and rinse off in the morning.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 2:30PM

I am a very pale Irish girl. I fake tan before going out in the sun while on vacation or in the summer. I've had good results from Loreal's sublime bronze (medium). It looks natural and stays for almost a week before it needs touching up.
I fake it so that I can go into the sun with tons of sunscreen on(and still feel comfortable).I put it on a night, then rinse off in the morning.

The key to a good fake tan is exfoliating first. Your skin has a much better base for the lotion and it never looks streaky.

posted by Natalie Hormilla

Mar 31, 2009 2:38PM

guest #15, thank you for your thoughtful/intelligent point. noted, i've edited the last paragraph to make it clear that the fears of melanoma are linked to the beds, not the lotions. keep commenting! (and i'm very happy that you embrace your skin!)

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 2:40PM

ALLLEGED link? Go read up on tanning beds nearly doubling the risk of melanoma. Study after study shows the link.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 2:52PM

I actually perform airbrush tans, and they are fabulous. My clients love it, and they receive many compliments. Airbrush tans, and fake tans from the bottle have come a LONG way from looking orange, you just need a high quality product and find the right forumula for your skin.

#10 is right, stop judging. I am all for those who want to remain fair, and equally for those who want to look tan. Its a matter of personal preference, and if one or the other makes you FEEL beautiful, it does not matter what anyone else thinks of it.

posted by AmandaMichele

Mar 31, 2009 3:24PM

As a very pale girl, I agree with #8 that not all people receive fair skin well. I live in Florida and have actually had people ask me where I was from assuming I am a tourist in my own town. Jergens lotion is actually very good-it doesnt make you super tan but it gives you a little glow like you spent an afternoon in the sun.

posted by sugarshock

Mar 31, 2009 3:47PM

The perception, sadly, is that tan still equals money for many people. It started way back with Coco Chanel, who made it seem chic (perhaps by accident) and continues among celebrities who are perpetually fake-tanned/baked.
As a pale girl myself, I do think that pale is beautiful, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that I feel like I look better with a tan.
That said I haven't acted on it. Yet.

posted by doll

Mar 31, 2009 3:51PM

I'm fairly pale, and although I hate to admit it, a tan does make me look better. It contours the face (cheekbones, slims the nose), makes my body look more toned and just gives me a healthy overall glow.

However, I'm talking about a real tan. In the summer I spend days at the beach...I wear SPF but I still manage to get color. It may not be the healthiest thing for my skin, but the sunshine makes me happy, and the tan makes me hot.

Oh well. You only live once. I say, embrace what you love and what makes you feel best.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 4:02PM

interestingly, in asian cultures, it seems to be the complete opposite. tan and darker skin tones used to and still appears to connote "poor" or "farmer," so there are a ton of products designed to whiten your skin. almost -as- disturbing as the fake tan thing.

posted by darcykins

Mar 31, 2009 4:12PM

up until the 20th century i think paler was considered more attractive in europe as well.
i'm thinking elizabethan, elightenment, gothic, marie antoinette.
people covering themselves in white powder.
i'm also pretty sure it often contained lead and was about as safe as tanning.
i think natural is best...

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 4:15PM

i am so pale i pretty much glow in the dark so i love my fake tan. i dont see anything wrong with it - if you dont like it then dont use it.

posted by Megs252

Mar 31, 2009 4:17PM

Guest #24 I totally agree. I lived in the Middle East as a teen and there is this fascination with light skin over there. The number one beauty products were brighteners and lighteners. People literally wanted to bleach their skin white. A total 360 from our culture where tan = healthy and pretty, pale =sick and weird.

I'm Irish pale and proud. I think there's nothing wrong with pale skin (hello, look at Cate Blanchett and Tilda Swinton) and it's much more gorgeous to be porcelain than crocodile textured and sunbeaten. The fact that anyone still goes to tanning beds just amazes me. They are so dangerous and disgusting, it's literally a microwave for your skin.

That said, if you're not a fan of your pale skin than I think fake tans are ok, as long as you apply them right. If people can tell your tan is fake, you're doing it wrong.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 4:18PM

fake tanning is just that, fake. why can't we just be who we really are? some people need to toughen up a bit. i'm sorry but if you get insulted about your skin tone then turn to fake tanning to hide this "deficiency" then you have a problem. the problem is not your skin but your confidence. and i know what you'll say, "fake tanning gives me confidence," but so does standing up for who you are and shrugging off the insult.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 4:41PM

It's pretty ridiculous to assume that a fake tan is an "orange" tan. My friend fake tans all the time and there really is no distinction between that tan and the tan she gets on vacation.

It's not even about being insecure with your own skin. Its more about a preference, I love pale skin but tan skin looks just as good, if not better.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 4:50PM

most people with pale skin don't look like cate blanchett or anne hathaway.
if i had perfect, porcelain pale skin, then i would embrace it.
i don't though and i think having some color makes me look healthier.
also, how can you say it NEVER looks real? that's kind of absurd.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 4:54PM

I agree, it's not fair to judge a fake tan if you approve of foundation, or even hairspray.

Also, I've not used fake tan ever but I'm considering investing in a good non-orangey kind - just because of the contrast between my milky legs (which are fine) and my more peachy face/arms (which are also fine). It'd just look a bit funny to be medium pale on top and super pale leg-wise.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 5:10PM

Why exactly is self tanner any worse than, oh I don't know, foundation, blush, bronzer, mascara, false eyelashes, hair dye, Spanx, push-up bras, I could go on and on. I think tanning beds are awful because they cause skin cancer, but really I don't get the fake tan bashing.

Doing something to make yourself happier with your appearance doesn't mean you lack self-confidence. I think some of the bashers need to lighten up a bit because I am sure they use at least one product to bolster their appearance.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 5:31PM

As a pale person, I can say that sometimes I use Jergen's on my legs. I work out/run a lot and am embarrassed by pale legs that tend to look less flabby with a bit of Jergen's on them. Sort of evens the tone more than anything else for me. Just make sure you exfoliate/moisturize before or else it'll just look spotty and gross.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 5:50PM

Living in Southern California having a tan is a must. Don't know if anyone's noticed but in the land of eternal sunshine there are still probably more tanning salons per block than anywhere else. Anyways as a person with an olive skin tone being tan is necessary otherwise my skin looks green...literally.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 6:02PM

Lindsay Lohan should definitely NOT be the poster child for self-tanner, as she has never worn it well, in my opinion. While I would never dream of criticizing someone for being pale, I have olive skin and feel I look healthier with a hint of tan, and I don't want someone criticizing me for it. I get lots of compliments on my skin tone, and I freely give them out to chicks of all shades. :) Peace.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 6:06PM

Natalie, Fake tans are usually classified as what you buy in a bottle, where asin a tanning bed you actually tan. I do agree that tanning beds are bad. But tanning lotions and sprays are like plastic surgery, if it improves you self confidence and self image, go for it.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 6:07PM

I have very fair skin and combined with rosacea I am unable to tan at all, any burning can cause redness that lasts for weeks, and while I have tried a variety of products and methods (including exfoliation before) the spray on or self tanning lotions all look off on my skin tone because it is so light.

While I would like to say that I am comfortable and confident with my pale skin, I have received comments from people about how pale I am. I even had one stranger ask me why I didn't tan while I was vacationing in miami. I was in shock that someone would even comment on a strangers skin color. Unfortunately society has placed too much value on having the "right" skin tone: not too light, not too dark.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 6:33PM

some people - or a lot of people look better with tans. Not every natural skintone is "flattering". Fake tans or tanning evens out and bronzes skin making it appear thinner, tighter, more contoured and visibly reducing skin imperfections. Thats why people love tons. Some pale skintone people have even tone and look great while others look sickly and are uneven. People wouldnt get fake or real tans unless they didnt assume they looked better with it. I definitely look better tan because of my yellowish/olivey skin tone which is in between skintone light-medium skintone range. A tan sharpens and defines my face and nose and makes legs look sleeker and toned.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 7:16PM

amen to whoever said it: we pale ones don't all look like anne hathaway or tilda or cate. generally it's not the face that's the problem, it's the lower body. if you're not a size 2-4, a very gentle coat of faketan can make pasty and fat look curvy and pretty.

one big problem with the logic of this post: you only notice the girls with bad fake tans, and then assume that all fake tans are bad. when it's well done, you don't notice it, so you don't think it exists.

finally, most people end up experimenting with faketans until they find what works, just as they do with hair, makeup and the rest. after a couple of awful experiences, those of us who are willing to adapt and change will usually find something that works. the jergens types are good because it allows you to not go through that awful phase, though the end result is not always as good as what you'd get with regular tanners used well.

posted by austinsamuel

Mar 31, 2009 7:50PM

From a guys point of view, I can understand why some girls do fake tan and others don't. I think Iekeliene is insanely hot only with pale pale skin, and in ed's where she is fake tanned - not so great. But being tanned does suit the majority of women, and obviously using a fake tan is the safer option. However chicks that are hardcore orange look disgusting (espesh the girls on 'sunset tan') - Although I think it's even worse for a guy to be wearing fake tan (and we all know they're out there)

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 8:04PM

My life motto? Tan fat is better than pale fat.

posted by ohmychuck

Mar 31, 2009 8:20PM

people love to look tan because all the fucking victoria's secret models are perfectly tanned. however in most high fashion ads, the models are super white. it is all personal taste. plus, a pretty person will look gorgeous pale or tanned, if someone is ugly they are just screwed either way

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 9:05PM

no no no! i used the jergens natural glow when it first came out - yes, it's more subtle than a fake bake or spray on, but it's still a totally unnatural color, and it stinks, and it actually comes off on your clothes and towels if you're not careful. honestly, i think it's disgusting and now chalk it up to a rare, insane moment. and while it hasn't been proven to harm your skin yet, think about it - dousing your body's largest organ in chemicals and dye? i don't know... which is probably the biggest reason why fake tan lotions are fundamentally different from mascara/hairspray/etc. you can wash all those things off at the end of the day, and they're just on one part of your face, not helping to create a fake body head to toe. honestly, it freaks me out. i wish people could just love who they are, and drink lots of water and eat well if they really are so concerned about their skin tone.

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 9:56PM

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS POST! "why do people do it?", as soon as i read this line all i could think is " I KNOW! WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE AN OLD SOUTH BEACH BIMBO HAG!?" Living in Montreal, there are just too many people with fake tans. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being pale, it's much more elegant, mature and...delicate!? With tanning salons, tanning creams and spray tans, you only end up looking like a japanese kogal!! It looks fake, cheap, weird and shallow. Like "only tanned baywatch babes are hot" type of attitude. I have several friends who have olive skin and even if they look paler in the winter (Montreal remember), they never look green. If your skin is turning greenish, maybe you should think about good shea butter or cocoa butter moisturizer. I use those to give my skin an inner, healthy glow ( so i dont look red, blotchy or blue), but it doesnt give me any orange marks between my fingers, knees, wrists or elbows! Even if fake tans are better then real ones, wouldnt you rather just embrace your HEALTHY winter skin? and wait for the summer to give you that healthy sun kiss? (dont get me wrong, i love sun kissed skin with wavy beach locks!)...(can you tell im dying for the weather to allow me to bring out my new Michael Kors strappies! XD)

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 10:35PM

my biggest problem with tanning lotions: that awful smell. i can smell it from a mile away. i have tried using those products in the past, to get a bit of color on my very pale legs (much paler than the rest of my body, as one other commenter had mentioned). but even after showering, the smell stays with you & i have frequently noticed it on other people. however, i think the tanning lotions are a good alternative to those horrible cancer-in-a-box tanning beds. say what you want, many women think they look better with a tan & this look is much healthier to achieve through what is essentially just another makeup product than through exposure to UV rays, whether they are from the sun or a tanning bed.

posted by guest

Apr 01, 2009 12:39AM

As a "naturally tanned" person of color, this topic has always amused me. It's ironic that darker skinned people have been discriminated against due to the color of their skin, while lighter skinned people bake, shake and spray themselves by any means necessary to get tanned. I think most people look better with a little tan, glow or color, because they generally look healthier and sometimes sexier too. Kind of depends on the person though and how far they take the tanning. Now, regarding the fact that in some cultures, pale skin is prized, I think this outdated thinking is ridiculous. It's not that easy to determine someone's socio-economic status by their skin tone alone, and white skin is not the ultimate goal for many people, sorry. Ultimately, one should go with what looks best on them because how they choose to look is their business! (Miss V)

posted by guest

Apr 01, 2009 2:45AM

I use fake tanner, the gradual kind, only in the summer. No matter how good my circulation is (I ran cross country in high school and still run every day) my skin is always splotchy. Some skin tones show that, others don't. I am pretty damn pasty, and I actually embrace my whole I'm-a-vampire-snowflake look in the winter, but in the summer, not so much. I could tan, my skin doesn't burn, but I prefer to be wrinkle free and not have to get any chunks of my skin punched out.

Fake tanner looks dumb if it's used in a dumb way. Remember who this post was talking about...

posted by guest

Apr 01, 2009 9:06AM

like a few of the ladies on here, i too am white as a...(sheet, ghost, insert other metaphor here.) i'm so pale, as a matter of fact, that you can see my veins through my skin.

while my confidence has certainly grown as i've gotten older (i haven't voluntarily "layed out in the sun" since i was about fourteen and i slather on sunscreen religiously year round), i do have to admit that others' comments can be surprisingly stinging. for me, they've ranged from "hey, morticia" to "look at the albino" - and i have dark hair!

i love my pale skin, but it never feels good to have others' unwelcome, negative comments directed at you. i don't care HOW "tough" and self-confident one is, guest #28! it's each individual's choice as to how he or she would like to deal with these feelings, and who the hell am i (or anyone else, for that matter) to judge?

posted by darcykins

Apr 01, 2009 9:45AM

i seems fashionista has become fake tanners anonymous.
i admit it i got my tan from a bottle once.

posted by guest

Apr 01, 2009 9:50AM

I completely agree with everyone on here who has commented about being pale. I too am so pale you can often see my veins. I also have a VERY difficult time finding foundation that works for my skin. While I find nothing wrong with being pale, I very often get weird looks during the summer, and comments like "OMG, you are soooo pale." It took me a long time to accept my skin as-is, and I used to long for a fake tan. However, the one time I used it (about 7 years ago in high school), it looked streaky and worse than my own skin tone.

I think other people just need to be a little more accepting of pale skin during the summer. I've had people call me albino to my face even though I have freckles, auburn hair, and green eyes!! My nickname in highschool and college was Casper (and I did not enjoy that... I tolerated it). Seriously, for those who have never been pale, you have no idea the taunting that can go along with that. I can completely understand why some girls end up doing the fake tan. At least it's healthier then risking skin cancer.

posted by guest

Apr 01, 2009 10:27AM

As a perpetually pale girl, I'm not ashamed to say that I've used the Jergen's lotion a few times, but was pretty quickly turned off by the smell, the length of time it took the lotion to dry, the orange streaks it left on my sheets and clothes, the awkwardness of trying to get it evenly distributed over my back, and especially the fact that I had to reapply daily and restock every week or so. It just got to be too much hassle for too little payoff. I've also tried fake-baking, but I came out of the bed red as a beet after like 3 minutes - and as someone who's had third degree burns from too much sun, I'm no longer willing to accept skin cancer as just another fact of life. It took some bad experiences, but after years of being called Casper and having professors ask if I need to go home because I look so pale, I've decided I'd rather be pale than in treatment for melanoma.

posted by guest

Apr 01, 2009 1:38PM

I try to stay out of the sun, but I LOVE the beach and all outdoorsy activities. I grew up in L.A.... aka land of the orange. I've seen women waaay into their 60's with an "Island glow" that would only be possible if the island was 5 feet away from the sun. Their skin is leathery, dark orange. I don't even understand how this could be considered attractive to anyone. Lindsay Lohan is a fair-skinned, red-headed freckle fest. I don't think she looks natural with a tan. I liked her when she embraced what was natural about her. Effin Hollywood. L.A. is so out of touch!!!

posted by neenersh

Apr 01, 2009 3:35PM

posted by guest

Mar 31, 2009 1:37PM

You failed to distinguish the difference between tanning beds and fake tans.

I AGREE, and also it bothers me when people say tanning bed tans look fake. The exact same process is going on with your skin, how is that fake? It looks damn real to me but also I agree with other posters that say a fake tan is better than ruining your skin. I tanned in a tanning bed for a couple months and while I was loving the slimming effect, I got lots of new moles and freckles to show the derma. FAKE=NO CANCER. Sounds good to me people.

posted by guest

Apr 01, 2009 4:21PM

This post doesn't acknowledge the many skin tones in between beautifully porcelain pale skin and naturally dark skin. My olive/yellow-green skin looks sickly without a tan.

posted by guest

Apr 01, 2009 10:12PM

Who dyes their hair?
Do you think you look better as a brunette, blonde, etc?

I think that fake tanning is fine. There's plenty of other things we do that are fake. Putting on makeup is one of them.

Some people go over board, but I think one can tell the difference. Everything in moderation.

I don't see why you need to write so negatively of it. You'd think you'd promote tanning lotions, etc. more so than a tanning bed, but you seem to condemn both.

Tan lines, anyone? I'm black with deep brown skin. Have JUST found a tanning lotion that will fix these tan lines. Thank ghod!

posted by guest

Apr 02, 2009 11:39AM

You used the phrase "begs the question" incorrectly. That term is supposed to suggest a logical fallacy, it is not interchangeable with "asks the question." Common mistake.

posted by guest

Apr 03, 2009 12:52PM

If you are born white, aside from baking naturally under the (REAL!) sun, stay that way! Sorry, if you were born a specific skin tone, you are just NOT GOING TO LOOK GOOD 5+ SHADES DARKER. GOD MADE YOU WHITE NOT BROWN, OLIVE NOT BLACK, AND VISE VERSA. I am sick of seeing blonds looking like they were left in the oven for far too long (same goes to darker haired woman)! SHEESH! It's gross! It's ugly! No matter how many compliments you may receive, it's all a commercial image frenzy, it's expected by every dumb man to look "HOT", it's what the masses now think of as the new sexy. Guess what, not everyone is fooled.

posted by karenx

Apr 05, 2009 4:24AM

Yeah it's really annoying seeing some blondes go tan... don't they know it just doesn't look good? You often don't look healthy you just look UNNATURAL! I know people who would love to have lovely white skin, ironic isn't it

posted by guest

Apr 07, 2009 6:38AM

I'm so pale people stop me on the street and ask if I'm ok. It gets old but fake tanning is even worse.

posted by guest

Apr 07, 2009 10:38PM

I do Mystic (spray) tanning, and it looks good. Here's the secret -- there are actually 3 levels, and level 2 is the default. If you do level 3, you look orange. Level 2 looks a bit orange at first but then fades after showering. If you do Level 1, which is what I do, it's very light, not orange at all, and gives you just enough color so that you don't look sickly pale (which is how I tend to look in the winter sometimes).

Bottom line -- fake tanning is just like losing weight or getting botox -- all of them might look good in moderation, but celebrities tend to go to the extreme. The Lindsay Lohans and Tara Reids of the world have given fake tanning a bad name.

Oh, and probably the reason you think it ALWAYS looks bad, cheap, etc. is that if you've ever seen anyone with a GOOD fake tan, you wouldn't know it's fake.