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Isaac, Ashley & Robin at the 92nd Street Y

92y robin ashley isaac.jpgJoyce Culver, 92nd Street Y“Fashion advertisements are hateful,” said Isaac Mizrahi at tonight’s 92nd Street Y panel discussion on the future of fashion, “but they work.”

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’s Editor-in-Chief Cindi Leive moderated the talk between The Washington Post’s Robin Givhan, Ashley Olsen and Isaac. The group discussed Michelle Obama, the economy, Ralph Lauren’s ad scandal, fast fashion and the fate of platform heels while Mary-Kate Olsen and Justin Bartha cheered from a few rows back.

Robin and Isaac spent the first ten minutes relishing the First Lady’s effect on the fashion industry. Robin heralded the example she’s setting “for women over thirty with busy careers and families who feel disenfranchised from fashion,” while Isaac finds her balance of mass and high fashion “so inspirational.”

Cindi asked the group why the fashion industry is so hated and Robin brilliantly responded that people have no problem condescending to fashion because it’s a women’s industry.

“No one ever says spending thousands of dollars on season tickets for football is a waste of money, but spending $5000 on a dress…” to which Isaac almost jumped out of his chair in agreement.

“Right on! Misogyny rears its ugly head again!”

Ashley did get a word in edgewise; Cindi asked her about the flood of celebrity fashion lines and Ashley diplomatically said that the reason it worked for her, and not so well for others, is because most don’t want it for the right reasons.

“Most get involved to have a licensing parter and build their personal brand, you have to want it. I never wanted to be an actress [when I grew up] so I’m not coming at it from a ‘celebrity’ stand point,” before repeating that this is her career, that she loves fashion.

Highlights included Isaac’s declaration that fashion magazines are too obsessed with celebrities and Ashley’s assessment that Opening Ceremony is the best place to shop high/low for special pieces. An audience member asked what she’d tell a young girl who wanted to look stylish on a tight budget and the Olsen answered, “Vintage.” Also, Isaac loves low-heeled shoes while Robin and Cindy vote platforms forever. Robin can’t wait for the 80’s trend to die and Isaac loves shows like Sex and the City and Gossip Girl because even though he’s aware they use stylists, all the girls appear to relish the process of building an outfit and that’s what inspires women to be stylish (though he loathes that they teach girls not to wear the same thing twice). And Ashley called Mary Kate her “number one teammate.”

And finally, it was a psychic reading post-Lehman Brothers that inspired Isaac to finally open his own store mid-recession.

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posted by dee

Oct 21, 2009 11:51PM

totally perfect. i'm a big fan of the olsen twins especially ashley. they take their label so seriously, and it's refreshing to see they love fashion for the craft and not the money.

although the do have enough of the money stuff lol

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posted by t

Oct 22, 2009 12:22AM

Ashley was ridiculous. She was like "It would be great to have Opening Ceremony in America" (since she went to the store opening in Japan)...um...we already have in LA and NYC FIRST? Urgh.

That panel was a massive waste of money. I would've been happier listening to Robin by herself!

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posted by RashomonRebel

Oct 22, 2009 12:59AM

lol, #2, you can come over here and sit next to me.

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posted by fashionursta

Oct 22, 2009 8:43AM

Thanks for the recap. I had a ticket but just didn't feel like going. Sounds like I didn't miss much, although I would have liked to hear what Robin had to say. She is so smart, and I would have liked to see the twins' hair in person. They go to my salon for waxing, but I have yet to see them. And I would have bonded over the platforms- as a short person, I love them too!

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posted by guest

Oct 22, 2009 9:49AM

This was a complete waste of time and I so wish I kept the $27 (plus tax and fees) instead. All the aforementioned guest speakers failed to say anything that hasn't been repeated a thousand times over already regarding the First Lady, the recession, models etc. I could have opened up any old magazine and gained the same insight spoken by these industry "pros." Cindi did nothing to disprove any misconceptions about the airhead-ness of fashion magazines; she was an adequate MC but you'd expect better questions or at least better thought out insights than what she provided. Ashley was probably the biggest joke, contradicting herself over and over ("Those other celebrity brands are just licenses, they don't care..." and then, "Elizabeth and James is more of a licensing thing, I loved that, I love marketing and branding" HUH?) and basically having no answers for any of the questions especially when she was asked what her typical day for The Row is like (she "dives" in fabrics and looks at designs)-obviously she is so very involved. Isaac and Robyn were refreshing and had the only commentary that was worth listening too half the time-it would have been much better if these 2 had just taken the stage for the whole night and been able to further delve into the subjects they obviously knew very much about and had much more to say-but were probably too considerate of their fellow "fashion editor" and "celebrity designer" on stage.

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posted by guest

Oct 22, 2009 12:55PM

questionable at best..he sinks ships..they seem to HAVE NO LIPS ??
I JUST DONT SEE THE POINT...THEY ARE GOOD ON THE "CARPET"

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posted by guest

Oct 22, 2009 6:08PM

i don't think people condescend the fashion industry becuase it's a womans industry. thats an easy way out, just lazy thinking
plenty of women pay that 5000 dollars for the season tickets too.

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posted by guest

Oct 22, 2009 8:43PM

It's not misogyny that ppl hate the fashion industry. It's that a) fashion ppl are mean, catty, insecure and all around awful ppl; b) that they do their very best to make others who don't conform to their standards feel like trash - like mean girls in high school, or white men in the South pre-Civil Rights; c)so many ppl in fashion come off as kind of dumb and full of themselves so they don't even know they come off as dumb; and d)they have no sense of humor except for some like Betsey Johnson and Isaac.

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