Last night was Fashionista’s first ever panel discussion! Bringing our “How I’m Making It” feature to life was so much fun and incredibly informative. Our fabulous panel included Timo Weiland and Alan Eckstein (of Timo Weiland), Rebecca Minkoff, Jeff Halmos (of Shipley & Halmos), Nellie Partow, Michael Mente (of Farfetch.com and Revolveclothing.com) and Paul Birardi and Eddy Chai (Odin and Pas de Deux). If you weren’t able to come, we didn’t want you to completely miss out, so here’s a rundown of what we feel were the evening’s most enlightening points. (Some good news for out-of-towners: We’ll be livestreaming our next event.) And if you did come, well, we (and our panelists) hope you didn’t leave too discouraged. If last night proved anything, it was that this business ain’t easy.

Lesson #1: Be ballsy.
The morning before his Fall 2010 presentation, Timo tea stained an enormous parachute in the middle of busy Washington Square Park, facing many curious strangers. However, I can attest that it looked amazing pinned on the ceiling above his models. “It was worth every awkward moment,” he said.

Alan once literally head-dove into a subway car, knocking people over, because he was running late for a meeting. Dangerous, but probably worth it.

Jeff sold clothes out of a trunk in a parking lot in L.A. He said it was the most rewarding part of his career because it was personal.

Rebecca once stood in Union Square handing out postcards and telling strangers to “check out this designer Rebecca Minkoff, she’s really hot.”

Nellie said starting the company was the ballsiest move she’s ever made.

Lesson #2: You don’t necessarily have to be obsessed with fashion or have lots of fashion experience to end up with a successful fashion business.
Michael Mente started his e-commerce site in 2002, at the end of the last recession, before e-commerce was “cool.” He had nothing to sell and actually stumbled upon fashion by chance.

Timo interned at Goldman Sachs and worked as a consultant before launching his namesake line.

Eddie had no retail experience before opening Odin with Paul.

Jeff admitted that they’re not just interested in fashion (Shipley & Halmos hasn’t shown the past two seasons) and are focusing more on other projects, like a book.

Lesson #3: Get your deliveries in on time.
Pretty much every designer agreed that getting a retailer’s order delivered on time was the most challenging and most important aspect of running a fashion business. Retailers Eddie and Paul reinforced the sentiment.

Lesson #4: Even after you “make it,” running a fashion business doesn’t really get any easier and there are still many day-to-day challenges.
“There are a million small things that always happen that are challenges, like today the toilet broke,” Jeff told us. He finds it hard not to get overwhelmed by small things.

Nellie explained, “basically, your whole day is spent problem solving…maybe 5% is actually designing.”

When asked what has been a major road block that maybe made them want to stop, Eddie responded, “You’re talking as if that’s past tense.” All of the panelists agreed that road blocks are constant.

Lesson #5: Internships are important.

Alan interned for Adam Lippes for 2-3 years and learned a lot about what to do and what not to do. Even interning at Goldman Sachs was beneficial to Timo in terms of learning about running a business.

Nellie took advantage of Parsons’ career center, which landed her internships at Donna Karan and Michael Kors.

Though he himself never interned, Michael said that Revolve’s internship program is really important and three of their five buyers started out as interns.

Rebecca gave some great internship advice, passed down to her from a former boss: “Be willing to experience anything and know that no task is too little.”

Lesson #6: Designers are vague about money and factories.
When asked how they got the money to start their business, Nellie explained that she started small, with just four dresses and admitted “it’s a continuous challenge to find capital…”

Timo’s advice was to make a really attractive, well-presented business plan with a logo and concept, and present it to your parents, your parents’ friends, or your parents’ friends’ friends. Alan added, “Just go for it!”

Michael “took baby steps, saved up and used credit cards.”

When asked about finding factories to have goods produced, Jeff, Timo and Alan said “trial and error” and Alan advised never to have just one factory because different factories are good at different things. He even advised just walking into some buildings in the garment center and going to each floor and asking people questions. However, no one actually named a factory…

In regards to factories in China, the consensus was that it’s “tricky” because there are huge minimums, it’s harder to get things on time and expensive to go back and forth, but most of them still do produce some things in China.

Lesson #7: Be really, really sure that this is what you want to do and is what you love.
This was probably the most important and agreed upon lesson of the discussion. When asked by an audience member what to do if you’re unsure and just want to “try out” a business idea, the panelists unanimously responded, “You have to be sure.” And you must enjoy the process, because there are going to be challenges and you’re not necessarily going to make much money.

Thanks again to our panelists, the Fashionista business team, Megan Maguire Steele, and of course, our audience, who asked great questions.


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AHHHHH!! This is the most real, brutally honest article I have ever read about the truths of starting a clothing line! Even with amazing retailers, such as Nordstrom, Pea in the Pod, and Bare Neccessities, my company BLANQI with partner Sabina is a constant work in progress!! Everything the designers mentioned we have faced in one way or another…from sourcing manufacturers, raising capital, writing patents, ordering clothing labels, figuring out how to ship EDI, etc! Our mentality is to be audacious and never quit despite the doors being shut..sometimes slammed in your face! xoxo valerie@blanqi.com

I attended the panel I was really impressed with the candidness of all the panelist. I have been in the industry for 6 years and understand the gripes that go along with creating and selling a collection but like Eddy said “you have to love what you do”. Rebecca really summed everything up by saying you have to enjoy the mini successes but then keep moving along to the next thing. Thanks for a great panel I look forward to the next one. Check out http://www.theellefiles.com for my take away on the discussion

umm.. why did you erase my comment? i wrote a comment that was mildly critical of the event because the designers were totally evasive when it came to the most difficult part of starting a line, how to raise money. the fashionista staff said that they would answer any questions that didn’t get answered during this discussion and when i posted my question they erased it…

also the event was supposed to be from 7 to 9 and it ended at 8:15.

I didn’t delete your comment! Not sure what happened there. I agree (and say in this post) that the designers were vague about money. What was your question?

Ok.. not sure what could have happened because it was there for a good 10 minutes then gone. But anyways, I attended the panel discussion (and raised my hand at least 10 times without getting called on) with the intent of asking one question and one question only: If you are a young designer with no connections in the fashion industry, or no family money to back you ( as it seems most young designers do like Kimberly Taylor and Timo) WHERE ON EARTH DO YOU GET MONEY? I would have loved to have known how Rebecca, Nellie and Jeff did it specifically and to ask the panel as a whole if they know of companies by name that provide funding for novice designers that have an amazing concept and product but no industry experience. Or are there specific private angel investors? And if so WHO ARE THEY OR WHERE DO YOU FIND THEM? The panel was so evasive when it came to the aspect of money (as you mentioned) that it almost felt uncomfortable when it got brought up, but still, I really need to know. Thank you!