So it’s no secret that nail art is at the all-time height of its popularity now–girls are going gaga (as is Gaga) for bedazzled, tricked out digits. Hell, even Chanel got on board. The constant onslaught of new polishes, special effects topcoats and nail blogs/how-to tutorials feed our obsession. But let’s not forget that we have a total of 20 nails that we can pinstripe and caviar-ize. Is toe nail art (cringe face) the new frontier? Depends who you ask.

Sally Hansen, whose uber-successful Salon Effects nail polish strips took the drugstore by storm, just released Pedicure Salon Effects which are $9.99 for a set and come in five patterns, like houndstooth and snake print. While searching on Pinterest and in our own nail art galleries (not to mention while idly staring at feet on the subway), we’ve noticed an uptick in pedicure nail art. Is this really a thing?

We talked to celeb manicurist Dawn Sterling, go-to fashion nail guru Jin Soon Choi, and Zoe Pocock, the founder of Nail Rock, to see what’s up. Or in this case, down.