We keep reading these Carine Roitfeld interviews with the hopes that we'll eventually figure out how to be as cool and chic as her. With this latest one from the Telegraph, we think we have the answer: you just have to be French.
The paper caught up with Roitfeld at the shoot for her new MAC campaign, where she discusses her own eye makeup theories, which we're pretty sure would not work on us normals: "I like to put black on my eyes, but I never put it on very well and I think it looks sexy," she says. "When you put it on in the morning it looks better by the evening. It is very wrong to sleep in your make-up but when you wake up the next morning, I think it looks very good." No it doesn't! Or is there just something wrong with us?
Roitfeld also talks about her supposed rivalry with Anna Wintour, some things she maybe shouldn't have put in French Vogue (cigarettes and anorexia), appeasing advertisers for CR Fashion Book, and how she used to pee behind cars. Oh and Ryan Gosling. Hey girl...
On posing for her MAC campaign:
She tells me she thought of the actor Ryan Gosling to make her feel sexy during the shoot. She likes to tease.
She learned how to be chic (or at least how to do black eyeliner) from her mother:
Roitfeld was born in Paris to a Russian émigré father and a Parisienne mother, whom Roitfeld describes as the ultimate, chic 'classic Frenchwoman'. One of her first memories of chic is doing her mother's eyeliner. 'It was the mid 1960s, and she was wearing a Pucci dress, and I was helping her put on her black eyeliner in a straight line,' she says. 'To be symmetrical can be difficult, so she asked me to do it.'
On Anna Wintour:
'It was invented,' Roitfeld says of the supposed rivalry with Anna Wintour. And of Wintour herself: 'She's tough but she's very honest. I like that. When my kids came to New York she invited them to dinner and as a mum those are things you don't forget. She is not my best friend, we never talk on the phone every day, but she is someone I respect, and the older you get in this business the fewer people you respect.'
On discovering things like anorexia and cigarettes maybe shouldn't be put into magazines:
Sometimes they [her critics] were right. Of course now we discover that cigarette is very bad or of course anorexia is very bad. But I think you have less and less freedom and it is very sad because it is fashion. Fashion is supposed to be light and not try too hard.
She is not a nymphomaniac:
People told me I was a nymphomaniac. Maybe I seem crazy because of some picture; maybe it's my art, what I have to express. But I have been with the same person for over 30 years - we never married because I am superstitious - but with the same person for ever. I've never been a nymphomaniac.
She used to pee behind cars:
When I was going in nightclubs there were cameras in the toilets looking to see if you were taking drugs, so I said, "OK, I will never go to pee in the toilet in a nightclub." I will always prefer to go to pee behind a car.
She compares Karl Lagerfeld to J-Lo:
Lagerfeld always calls me Mme Roitfeld, never Carine. It's funny, he's like a rock star now. You go on the street with him, it's like being with J-Lo.
On having to pay attention to advertisers
But now I understand it is a business and you have to pay attention to the people who put money in your magazine. But there has to be a limit or otherwise you are not a journalist anymore. But this magazine is going to be totally different than what I was doing before, with a new dream team.