Crystals, jiu jitsu, crystals, trips to the dermatologist and more crystals.

Spencer Pratt, reality TV star turned social media phenom, is still a bit of a walking contradiction. From one perspective, his life is an open book; his Snapchat feed acts as a live-broadcast that seemingly chronicles his every waking moment. (If you don't already obsessively follow along, well, let me urge you to change your ways, ASAP. It's riveting.) But he and his wife, Heidi Montag, also remain somewhat enigmatic. They don't do many interviews and for the most part stay out of the public eye, instead spending their time with their four dogs and impressive crystal collection (more on that in a minute). Even though Pratt is his own unique brand of celebrity/social influencer, he's also, at his core, a surprisingly relatable human being. He may have spent his young-adult years caught up in the drama of reality TV — but really, he just wants to chill out with a glass of wine, his dog and a good face mask. That's all any of us really wants in life, isn't it? 

We at Fashionista have been fans of Pratt's for some time now. Through our #socialmedia #access, we were able to get in touch with him and finally ask the hard-hitting questions the world wants to know: What's your skin-care routine like, and what's the deal with all of those crystals? Here's what he had to say on those matters, as well as a variety of other subjects, like the Hadid sisters' boxing skills, Heidi's cooking and an unfortunate lash-tinting experience. 

Spencer and his dermatologist, Dr. Jessica Wu, who also works with a mind-boggling list of other celebrities. Photo: Courtesy of Spencer Pratt

Spencer and his dermatologist, Dr. Jessica Wu, who also works with a mind-boggling list of other celebrities. Photo: Courtesy of Spencer Pratt

So let's start with skin care. How would you describe your usual routine?
From probably [the ages of] 15 to 25, I got at least one facial every single week. I had, like, this guru on the West Side, this lady; I won't name drop her. But then we beefed out because she'd always say, 'I'm going to extract this, I'm going to do this,' and I'd just say 'whatever.' Then before prom, I was sort of out of it, I didn't understand what she was saying, she was like 'Oh, your eyelashes, they're so bleached out; I'm going to tint them.' And I wake up from this facial and it looks like I'm wearing mascara. So I stopped seeing her for facials. And then I went to Dermalogica for years and I used to use their products, but there's no Dermalogica in Santa Monica. We went to England and over there I'd go to the Dorchester Spa and all of the products they used were La Prairie.

I got hooked on those products with diamonds and crystals, blah, blah, blah, and then I realized I was spending thousands a month on face products. So then I started using Malin + Goetz and that worked great — until I went paddle boarding with the sunscreen and I got a face rash. That's when I switched over to Avène, which is for highly sensitive skin people. Now I rarely wash my face with a face wash, because my skin has been so sensitive because of the Santa Ana winds, so I try to just use cold water and then I use the Avène Rich Cream, and then I use the Thermal Spray. That mist, that's my go-to. And I only use the Avène sunscreen. Avène became like my best friend. I used to use so many different products, but now it's pretty basic. 

You used to use a lot of masks and things, right? But less so recently?
You caught me at the time when I brought my regimen down to a limited thing; it used to be toners and exfoliants... and I guess I did it for so many years. My dermatologist [Dr. Jessica Wu, shown above] doesn't understand it. Every 10 years your skin has a major change, my dermatologist was saying, so maybe it changed for the worse. Also if you have asthma, when you're older it shows in your skin. It's funny because I was talking to my Snapchat buddy Kelly Oxford who was asking if I'd gotten a crystal facial, thinking it would be the perfect thing for me, and I was like 'No, I can't do anything because my skin's so sensitive.' I thought Avène was just for sensitive people. I didn't even know about this brand until my dermatologist told me. I thought I knew every face product because I thought I'd tried everything.

Has that been hard to deal with, that new sensitivity to products when you used to love using them so much?
It's been very emotional. I wouldn't wish highly sensitive skin upon anyone. I always say it's all of my karma hitting me in contact dermatitis. And then I start stressing about it, and then that makes it worse because stress doesn't help. And then you eat bad because you're stressed, and I definitely do think it's true that eating badly affects your skin. So that's another thing I do, I also take fish oil for my skin because that's supposed to help.

What about your beard? Why did you decide to grow it?
Shaving caused so many ingrown hairs for me — that's the only reason I ever grew a flesh-colored beard. It was more that than, 'oh, I think I like this so much.' When I shave I get ingrown hairs, so now I just have the barber trim it. I go to the barber twice a week, so that keeps it pretty maintained.

What about Heidi? Is there anything she's turned you on to, skin-care wise? Or vice versa?
She wants to have a baby, so she researches all of the chemicals, and she has this website that rates things [based on their ingredients]. She found this company called Acure, so we share the Sensitive Facial Cleanser. I was using that, until the other day, I was messing with Heidi and I was rubbing my face on her face, and the lotion from that brand like burned my face. I'm hyper-sensitive to the lotion, so I really can't mess. It's the devil, the devil is attacking my skin.

Oh dear.
Yeah. But she sometimes uses the body lotion I use and the body wash. I use Aveeno Skin Relief Gentle Scent Lotion in Nourishing Coconut — this stuff is amazing. I see ads in People magazine for Aveeno, and it's usually just the regular one with oatmeal. I used to use that one, but the coconut is so good. I guess with this new skin routine I'm going to save, like, a million dollars every couple of years, until everything chills out. I think it's not just me, though. What I was just saying to Heidi is that there's no rain now. I grew up in L.A. but it's the driest L.A. has been in, like, 10 years.

What products that you used to use do you miss most?
I miss all of the the high-end stuff, like the La Prairie Mask. That was the good old days. I'm so, so jealous of John Mayer; when he did his skin Snap tutorial, I was like, that guy is ballin'.

Alright, so what else do you do in terms of self-care?
Well I'm trying to eat an anti-inflammatory diet because I'm convinced that my skin is inflamed and that's why it's so sensitive. But it's challenging because it eliminates a lot of what I like. I was into juicing, but someone messaged me on Snapchat saying their Eastern medicine doctor said that you use a lot of internal energy to digest the juices of vegetables that aren't cooked. And I was like, 'Oh my god, I hope that's not true.' But I have been drinking green juice every day and ginger shots, and every day I've been going to the farmer's market and getting turmeric. I try to only drink alkaline water; I'll go get cases of that Essentia water. [To his dog, Ninja, who's barking in the background:] I'm doing a very important interview right now, Ninja, please stop barking.

I'm trying to eat more salmon; now when I get sushi, I mainly just get salmon sushi. I'm trying to avoid the mercury, but also it's good for your skin. Heidi has been cooking for us, so that's been a change in my life, because we used to eat out for pretty much all of our meals. Now, Heidi is cooking and only shopping at the farmer's market or at a health food market. So every day, I've been having buckwheat waffles instead of breakfast burritos. Well, today I had a breakfast burrito, but instead of a normal burrito, I had one with spinach, egg whites and avocado. But it's still a burrito.

OK, so we need to talk about the crystals. Where did your affinity for them start?
I got into that because after Heidi's plastic surgery, she was in so much pain and painkillers didn't work at all. So I started Googling homeopathic remedies and found an article about healing crystals, and I'd never heard a word about that. The one that I read about that was sugilite, and so I went and bought it; that night, whether it was a placebo effect or whatever, she slept through the night holding this crystal. The next day, I went to the store and probably bought $20,000 in crystals the first day. Once I had the whole room surrounded, it started looking so cool — with all the insane stones it looked like a pirate cave, and I always loved 'The Goonies.' So it was like my own 'Goonies.' I really love looking at crystals, but I kind of chilled at wearing them and having them in my pocket. Crystals really increase my energy, and I'm already pretty hyped up, so I kind of needed to chill on wearing pounds of them and walking around in them. Our whole house is full of them, but once I leave the house, I've got to maintain a level of chill in public. I don't want to get worked up like Yeezy.

And so now you have your own crystal starter kit.
Yeah, I'm just going to plug my crystal kits here: The only thing I do lately is I'll take my kit, which are like small, little stones, and I'll put them on my third eye and lie down. If you close your eyes and imagine you have a third eye and you're looking up, if you meditate like that, and you tell me you don't have a trip, I'll be like, 'Wow, OK.' For me, it's almost too much and I have to stop. I always put crystals on my third eye area, right above my eyelashes in the middle right there. Any stones I put there I feel instantly. I also have that giant crystal. The other day when I sat next to that giant crystal when Heidi put the Christmas lights on it, I was spinning for like 10 minutes. The people who are like '[Crystals] don't do anything' I'm not going to argue with. But I think they do. So I partnered with a guy who's been famous for years in the game — he gets them at such a good price. The stones you're getting out of my kit for $33 are pretty great; you're not going to beat that deal. Not all of the crystals out right now have the same energy as these; these are super, do-energy-work type stones.

Crystals have become such a trend now. Do you feel like you sort of started it?
What's so funny is everyone loves crystals because everyone loves diamonds and diamonds are crystals. Everyone wants gemstones and rubies, so I'm like, I like what you like. I just know names of more.

I used to mediate every day with crystals all over my body, but I think I'm at a good place spiritually where I don't feel the need. I do appreciate all of these famous people now getting into crystals and making me look less insane. They're pretty damn cool. They're chill. And you can get cheap ones, you don't have to be Katy Perry-rich.

Alright, so what else do you do in terms of wellness? Exercise?
Martial arts. Going into 'The Hills,' I quit doing jiu jitsu, but I think [I needed] that outlet of martial arts. I think I made a lot of wrong decisions based off of energy. I think it's humbling. I definitely recommend men and women, whoever, get into martial arts. I don't think it has to be jiu jitsu; if you want to do karate or tae kwon do. Not for fighting, just for something to practice. And for me, I'd rather do martial arts and get a workout than get on a treadmill. 

So when did you get back into doing jiu jitsu?
Three years ago, probably. Once I realized eating wasn't going to make me happy. I do it every day now. And then I also just started boxing. Gigi Hadid inspired me to get back into it. With all these Victoria's Secret models, I'm like, they're getting better boxing skills than me, I need to step it up. I'm not like at a Gigi Hadid level, but I'm probably at a Bella Hadid level. I'd hope. Definitely Karlie Kloss level, I saw some of hers. She's got some kicks, though, I've got to work on my kicks.

I also got into ice baths... I don't know if I should recommend them to people. It makes Heidi very nervous, because I was reading articles and like 50 percent were about how great they are, and 50 percent are about people who have cardiac arrest and die. I was copying all of these pro athletes who do them, and now I'm addicted to it. I do it at least once a week. I gotta get my own ice machine because it gets expensive; it's like $60 for all of the ice. I just feel super good after it. There's a whole movement going on that I was following on Instagram with this guy, Ice Man Hof; people are doing these seminars where you're supposed to get in and breathe. I'm not doing the breathing part yet. His seminars are, like, sold out and people all get in ice baths and do a yoga-type breathing, so I'm doing my own version of it. Heidi's gotten up to two minutes; I can do eight minutes.

This interview has been edited and condensed.

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